[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

my signed bill of sale has Freight at 1170 and PDI at 1295

Our dealer fees are just under $3800.
Freight is $1151 and PDI is $1295.
Gas/wheels locks is $169 (this one was increased a little due to the gas prices rising)
Ride Green certified is $399 (this is a combination for tire recycling fee, nitrogen in the tires and includes a $5000 voucher for if your car gets stolen)
Rubber mats $269 (this is the only one that is optional)
Admin fee $399
Air con tax $100
OMVIC fee $10
Lender fee $35 (for lease/finance purchase)

Pretty normal dealer fees in Ontario marketplace.

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by SW19

I have had comfort access in my BMW’s for so long that there is no way i would order a BMW without it.It’s so convenient.It’s the most important option in the package IMO.I’m actually surprised that it isn’t standard on this car.

100% agree with needed comfort access. It should be standard on all BMWs IMO

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

Interesting. 530 CAD less then BMW.ca "Freight & PDI". It seems a portion of those costs are dealer discretionary.

BMW.ca is not a accurate tool for anything

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

This is so confusing. I tried to configure a M2 using some European (UK, France, and Germany).

There is at least 3 maybe 4 different headlight choice for this car. I just wish we had clearer information. I stopped by my closest dealer yesterday to sit in a 2 series for headroom assessment (there were none in stock). I asked about headlights and as I was anticipating, there were no help.

Any Canadian CAs here can confirm the disparity between dealers on "Freight and PDI" ranging from 2,995 CAD (BMW.ca) to 3,995 CAD closest dealer. I thought "Freight and PDI" were items dictated from BMW Canada. Is this a way for dealers to hide ADM?

Without premium package you cannot added shadow line headlights. Here is a photo of base headlights vs shadowline. No phone has been released for the adaptive headlights without shadowline but i am guessing they are similar to the M240i.

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

Our dealer fees are just under $3800.
Freight is $1151 and PDI is $1295.
Gas/wheels locks is $169 (this one was increased a little due to the gas prices rising)
Ride Green certified is $399 (this is a combination for tire recycling fee, nitrogen in the tires and includes a $5000 voucher for if your car gets stolen)
Rubber mats $269 (this is the only one that is optional)
Admin fee $399
Air con tax $100
OMVIC fee $10
Lender fee $35 (for lease/finance purchase)

Pretty normal dealer fees in Ontario marketplace.

Ride green is a scam my dealer took it off when I asked

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

100% agree with needed comfort access. It should be standard on all BMWs IMO

I disagree. I am of course fine w/ that option being available to those who want it but I have no interest in it and I am glad it doesn't come w/ it.

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

BMW.ca is not a accurate tool for anything

I would hope it is accurate for MSRP numbers. Other items that are discretionary and variable depending on geography and individual dealers should be clearly delineated.

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

Without premium package you cannot added shadow line headlights. Here is a photo of base headlights vs shadowline. No phone has been released for the adaptive headlights without shadowline but i am guessing they are similar to the M240i.

If so, you have to add ZPP to have the second option. I am a bit bummed about that but that is OK. Looks like the first headlight look for me.

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

Ride green is a scam my dealer took it off when I asked

Some dealers do not budge on this. I walked away from a dealer where I might have been higher on the order list due to this. They had a this "option" as mandatory + battery charger wiring totaling 1,100 CAD. It wasn't the money; it was the principle. Very off putting.

I had another CA telling me since the dealer were doing me a favor by sticking to MSRP on the car. Also, that it was only fair the dealer wanted to make money on those BS add-ons. I chuckled and told him that they were already making money on the car. There was an invoice price not visible to me lower than the MSRP. BMW Canada saw fit and fair that the profit over invoice should be satisfactory.

I despise the whole car buying system and bad practices to charge ADM. It should be sticker price and first come first serve for order. For cars on the lot immediately available that were ordered for the dealer, sure, go ahead.

[Denver Coutu]

I would hope it is accurate for MSRP numbers. Other items that are discretionary and variable depending on geography and individual dealers should be clearly delineated.


It is not. The base MSRP is accurate but as soon as you go into configure it adds in an inaccurate freight and PDI total into the price.

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

I would hope it is accurate for MSRP numbers. Other items that are discretionary and variable depending on geography and individual dealers should be clearly delineated.


It is not. The base MSRP is accurate but as soon as you go into configure it adds in an inaccurate freight and PDI total into the price.

Thank you. Does "Freight and PDI" vary dealer to dealer or province?

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

Thank you. Does "Freight and PDI" vary dealer to dealer or province?

Yes. But should stay close to $2500

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

Yes. But should stay close to $2500

Wow, my local dealer is almost 4k.

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

Yes. But should stay close to $2500

allocations soon sir?

[eddj]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

Yes. But should stay close to $2500

Hi Denver Coutu

Any thoughts on whether we should expect a M2 xdrive variant being released ( also when we will be able to order one) as well and approximately around when you think this will be happening ?

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

Wow, my local dealer is almost 4k.

Freight and pdi is about $2500

With all our fees its $3800

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

allocations soon sir?

Nothing yet. I don't expect open allocations until feb or later after the hea specs have dropped.

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by eddj

Hi Denver Coutu

Any thoughts on whether we should expect a M2 xdrive variant being released ( also when we will be able to order one) as well and approximately around when you think this will be happening ?

I had heard at first no xdrive for m2 but now i hear we might get one. I predict if we do get one it will be a MY24 or 25 with comp be auto xdrive and normal m2 rwd only like m3/m4 but i have no official information.

[m20e3087]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

I had heard at first no xdrive for m2 but now i hear we might get one. I predict if we do get one it will be a MY24 or 25 with comp be auto xdrive and normal m2 rwd only like m3/m4 but i have no official information.

So can we expect a comp for MY24?

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

So can we expect a comp for MY24?

yes that's what the rumours have been saying. m2comp start of production 08/24 with possible xdrive

[eddj]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

So can we expect a comp for MY24?

There are rumors that g87 will be getting a Comp xdrive variant in the future.

[m20e3087]

@Tag T_U_D can you guys please confirm this? 8/23, MY24 we can see a comp?

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

@Tag T_U_D can you guys please confirm this? 8/24, MY24 we can see a comp?

Nothing on my end. I do fully suspect a G87 Comp to be auto only.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

@Tag T_U_D can you guys please confirm this? 8/23, MY24 we can see a comp?

G87 M2 Competition variant expected in August 2024

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

So can we expect a comp for MY24?

I have no official confirmation of that.