[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by 1stM

Are these scraping marks?

I mentioned that above. Looks like heavy scraping/gouging damage. Something odd happened here.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by 1stM

Are these scraping marks?

Yeah, did you pull in too far while parking over a curb? Do you remember? That may have done it too. In which case, that’s a collision claim.
If that damage you circled is the puncture, it looks like the nail/rebar that sticks out of those parking curbs.

[aerobod]

There is also a lot of distortion upwards of the middle of the panel behind the oil cooler, besides the scrapes and gouges. Besides parking blocks, I’ve had similar damage underneath before from a tyre tread of a transport truck.

[xps]

Trust me the car looks brand new, not a single scrape or scratch apart from the 1/2" ding on the oil cooler itself. The picture is very distorted. The things that looks like scrapes, is salt dried up from the winter road and other reflections. I will re take a picture once I visit the dealer later today or tomorrow morning.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by xps

Trust me the car looks brand new, not a single scrape or scratch apart from the 1/2" ding on the oil cooler itself. The picture is very distorted. The things that looks like scrapes, is salt dried up from the winter road and other reflections. I will re take a picture once I visit the dealer later today or tomorrow morning.

I see now how the image processing made the oil cooler fins look blended together and all scraped up. I really thought it was missing.

Just one more reason why BMWs should have oil sticks. I hate that damn sensor which takes forever to show you the level and, in this scenario, you can't even run the engine to check it.

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[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Tag

I see now how the image processing made the oil cooler fins look blended together and all scraped up. I really thought it was missing.

Just one more reason why BMWs should have oil sticks. I hate that damn sensor which takes forever to show you the level and, in this scenario, you can't even run the engine to check it.

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No difference in newer Audis, Porsches, etc.

[xps]

Bad news! They found metal shavings in the filter, the engine is toast. Can't imagine what I got myself into.

Before I go the insurance route, which I am dreading!

how do I approach BMW NA to look into this issue? Is there any way they are going to own up to their poor design? What are the chances I replace the motor and the same thing happens again while going to my home from the dealership? Looking at the size of the hole, it is a 1/8", I am pretty sure there are 1000s of small rocks on the road that can cause the same damage over and again!

Also people who ask to pull over right away- unless the driver has perceived that something hit underneath which in the case of a small rock we won't, it is not worth risking your life on tight or no shoulders, so one shoud atleast be able to drive 0.5miles from the low pressure warning to a safe place which is what I did.

[Bumpinjeep]

Holy shit dude, that's insane. I'm hoping BMW steps up and orders you a new motor or you can take the damn car back and just buy another one. Sorry to see this happen, we all wish you good luck in this whole ordeal.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by xps

Bad news! They found metal shavings in the filter, the engine is toast. Can't imagine what I got myself into.

Before I go the insurance route, which I am dreading!

how do I approach BMW NA to look into this issue? Is there any way they are going to own up to their poor design? What are the chances I replace the motor and the same thing happens again while going to my home from the dealership? Looking at the size of the hole, it is a 1/8", I am pretty sure there are 1000s of small rocks on the road that can cause the same damage over and again!

Also people who ask to pull over right away, unless the driver has perceived that something hit underneath which in the case of a small rock we won't, it is not worth risking your life on tight or no shoulders, so one shod atleast be able to drive 0.5miles from the low pressure warning which is what I did.

This sucks OP. Let us know what dealer says. Try the route of asking if it's not a warranty issue, and if it's not, if BMW doesn't do a good will gesture.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by xps

Bad news! They found metal shavings in the filter, the engine is toast. Can't imagine what I got myself into.

Before I go the insurance route, which I am dreading!

how do I approach BMW NA to look into this issue? Is there any way they are going to own up to their poor design? What are the chances I replace the motor and the same thing happens again while going to my home from the dealership? Looking at the size of the hole, it is a 1/8", I am pretty sure there are 1000s of small rocks on the road that can cause the same damage over and again!

Also people who ask to pull over right away, unless the driver has perceived that something hit underneath which in the case of a small rock we won't, it is not worth risking your life on tight or no shoulders, so one shod atleast be able to drive 0.5miles from the low pressure warning which is what I did.

Try to pursue BMW doing a goodwill repair. It's worth a shot.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by xps

What are the chances I replace the motor and the same thing happens again while going to my home from the dealership? Looking at the size of the hole, it is a 1/8", I am pretty sure there are 1000s of small rocks on the road that can cause the same damage over and again!

As already pointed out above, buy a protective screen.

https://www.zunsport.com/us/product/...roduct_id=7331

[xps]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

As already pointed out above, buy a protective screen.

https://www.zunsport.com/us/product/...roduct_id=7331

Sure! I would have eventually gotten the shield after knowing the car more and what it needs. But I wanted to point out BMW has made such a fragile design that it didn't even allow me to reach home from dealership after buying it.

I intentionally worded "going to home from the dealership".

Too bad I will be making payments on a car that has been home for the time it takes to fix.

It also bothers me that the car is never going to be the same as factory

Also does anyone know if an insurance claim is going to diminish the car value and give the car a branded title?

[1stM]

Hope BMW will take care of this. The winter road salt did some damage there.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by xps

Sure! I would have eventually gotten the shield after knowing the car more and what it needs. But I wanted to point out BMW has made such a fragile design that it didn't even allow me to reach home from dealership after buying it.

I intentionally worded "going to home from the dealership".

Too bad I will be making payments on a car that has been home for the time it takes to fix.

It also bothers me that the car is never going to be the same as factory

Also does anyone know if an insurance claim is going to diminish the car value and give the car a branded title?

I’ll give you my opinion on the insurance piece:

It depends.
One: your insurance goes up if this is considered a collision claim. If it’s a comprehensive claim, your insurance premium shouldn’t go up.

Two: for your car to have a “rebuilt” title, it’d have to be deemed a total loss and the car offered for you to buy back. Then it’d be bought back as a rebuilt title car. But, if it’s deemed a total loss, you’d likely just take the cash and run. It’s unlikely this is a total loss case, as all you need (likely) are a new engine and a new oil cooler. They don’t make up 75+% of the total value of the car, since it’s brand new.

Three: having a new engine in the car will likely hurt the resale value if it hits CarFax (or even without it, if the buyer gets the information from you or BMW). This happens because most people want a car that was untouched other than expected maintenance. Painted panels, new engine, count as a “molested” car for buyers. In the comparison with “untouched” cars, the touched one likely is less valuable.
But it shouldn’t be a big deal if done properly at BMW. It’d be a blessing if the car had 100,000 km.

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

As already pointed out above, buy a protective screen.

https://www.zunsport.com/us/product/...roduct_id=7331

That still looks fragile, the mishimoto one looks much beefier at stopping bricks https://www.mishimoto.com/bmw-g80-m3...late-2021.html

[FrankWhite!]

Do you know if you’re covered on the car from your existing policy(s)? I mentioned earlier I called my carrier prior to taking delivery and was told I had a 3 day period to get it insured. Not sure if that’s standard or something we had build in to our other coverage.

Anyone know if there’s some salvageable parts on the old engine?

Man, I hate this for you…so sorry

[fangelov]

Originally Posted by xps

Bad news! They found metal shavings in the filter, the engine is toast. Can't imagine what I got myself into.

Before I go the insurance route, which I am dreading!

how do I approach BMW NA to look into this issue? Is there any way they are going to own up to their poor design? What are the chances I replace the motor and the same thing happens again while going to my home from the dealership? Looking at the size of the hole, it is a 1/8", I am pretty sure there are 1000s of small rocks on the road that can cause the same damage over and again!

Also people who ask to pull over right away- unless the driver has perceived that something hit underneath which in the case of a small rock we won't, it is not worth risking your life on tight or no shoulders, so one shoud atleast be able to drive 0.5miles from the low pressure warning to a safe place which is what I did.

Hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like some of the plastic cover behind the cooler has been damaged in at least 3 places. Probably you run over something more substantial than a single rock bounce.

[Trogster]

Yikes!

Just ordered the grill.

[xps]

Originally Posted by fangelov

Hard to tell from the pictures, but it looks like some of the plastic cover behind the cooler has been damaged in at least 3 places. Probably you run over something more substantial than a single rock bounce.

like i said in my previous post. There is no damage, not even a single scratch on the entire vehicle except for the hole in the cooler. It seems like my phone has hard time taking clear pictures if I don't hold it steady for a bit.

[xps]

Originally Posted by FrankWhite!

Do you know if you’re covered on the car from your existing policy(s)? I mentioned earlier I called my carrier prior to taking delivery and was told I had a 3 day period to get it insured. Not sure if that’s standard or something we had build in to our other coverage.

Anyone know if there’s some salvageable parts on the old engine?

Man, I hate this for you…so sorry

I am not sure what you mean. The car is not allowed to be driven out of the dealership lot without full insurance coverage if you are financing it. So, the car has complete coverage. I am just worried about the whole process wince this will be first ever insurance claim since I started driving

[tresbrien]

Just bad luck OP. I picked mine up in NJ and drove back to Chicago over the weekend and was really paranoid about this happening. Had the Zunsport outer grill set installed before my trip but just purchased the oil cooler grill as well.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by xps

Sure! I would have eventually gotten the shield after knowing the car more and what it needs. But I wanted to point out BMW has made such a fragile design that it didn't even allow me to reach home from dealership after buying it.

I intentionally worded "going to home from the dealership".

Too bad I will be making payments on a car that has been home for the time it takes to fix.

It also bothers me that the car is never going to be the same as factory

Also does anyone know if an insurance claim is going to diminish the car value and give the car a branded title?

You asked "what happens if I replace the motor and it happens again..." My suggestion was to purchase the screen now and install it before you drive the vehicle home again.