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      11-08-2022, 08:04 PM   #331
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In Canada, in conjunction with the Carbon Package, ZMM is included, then there is a no-cost option depending on ZMM for 1E6 standard wheels with PS4S tyres to be changed to 1GF (same wheels with Cup 2 tyres), or 1E7 burnished wheels to be changed to 1GG (same wheels with Cup 2 tyres).

I would say the US would also need to offer 1GF or 1GG to have Cup 2 tyres included in the build.
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rconn14 is right
No one knows until the info is officially released by BMW. Lots to do about nothing. Until then, we are all speculating based on past, logic, gut, etc..

The Carbon Package is expensive, so the sooner BMW sheds light on what is precisely included in it the sooner we can make informed purchasing decisions. For example, if the Track Package includes Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R's and Heads-up Display, plus all the other goodies it may be worth price, but if as mentioned, it's only a factory code, it may not provide enough value to some.

Time will tell.
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No one knows until the info is officially released by BMW. Lots to do about nothing. Until then, we are all speculating based on past, logic, gut, etc..

The Carbon Package is expensive, so the sooner BMW sheds light on what is precisely included in it the sooner we can make informed purchasing decisions. For example, if the Track Package includes Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R's and Heads-up Display, plus all the other goodies it may be worth price, but if as mentioned, it's only a factory code, it may not provide enough value to some.

Time will tell.
I don't know how to make it more clear that it is not speculation

In the US it's Carbon Roof, Carbon Seat with Merino leather, Carbon Interior Trim, and M Drivers Package

Someone's ears must have been ringing because it's already been changed to reflect that it is a meaningless code.

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No one knows until the info is officially released by BMW. Lots to do about nothing. Until then, we are all speculating based on past, logic, gut, etc..

The Carbon Package is expensive, so the sooner BMW sheds light on what is precisely included in it the sooner we can make informed purchasing decisions. For example, if the Track Package includes Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R's and Heads-up Display, plus all the other goodies it may be worth price, but if as mentioned, it's only a factory code, it may not provide enough value to some.

Time will tell.
I don't know how to make it more clear that it is not speculation

In the US it's Carbon Roof, Carbon Seat with Merino leather, Carbon Interior Trim, and M Drivers Package

Someone's ears must have been ringing because it's already been changed to reflect that it is a meaningless code.

Attachment 3029073
Meaningless codes are what folklore is made of, but mistakes do happen. Good to see this cleared up as a simple error.
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      11-09-2022, 02:50 PM   #336
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Meaningless codes are what folklore is made of, but mistakes do happen. Good to see this cleared up as a simple error.
Not even an apology for all the attitude, eh?
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I don't know how to make it more clear that it is not speculation

In the US it's Carbon Roof, Carbon Seat with Merino leather, Carbon Interior Trim, and M Drivers Package

Someone's ears must have been ringing because it's already been changed to reflect that it is a meaningless code.

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is that an updated order guide? can you send it
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      11-09-2022, 02:56 PM   #338
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is that an updated order guide? can you send it
I cannot but that is the only change I see versus the original.
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I cannot but that is the only change I see versus the original.
i noticed it no longer says "full merino"

can you dm me the new order guide
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i noticed it no longer says "full merino"

can you dm me the new order guide
The original has the same naming for X3MM in the package. There was no change.
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Meaningless codes are what folklore is made of, but mistakes do happen. Good to see this cleared up as a simple error.
Not even an apology for all the attitude, eh?
Good one. 😆
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Good one. 😆
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      11-12-2022, 06:44 AM   #343
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      11-12-2022, 07:12 AM   #344
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We know… There was a specific thread started on 11/10 at 8:38a. It is clearly visible on the main page.

https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1969001
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      11-12-2022, 07:15 AM   #345
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Glad to see at least one person on here gets it. People's ideas of financial responsibility blows my mind…..no one who has created true wealth would ever think spending HALF of what their salary is on a car. Insanity. But that mindset keeps the top 1% at the top….

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Haha yeah, that is the mindset that keeps the top 1% at the top, not generational wealth or extreme privilege or anything else. Get off your high horse dude, not everyone wants to hoard their money for the future, it can be entirely reasonable to spend half your salary on a car if that fits your priorities. You could die tomorrow and loose everything, if you want to save way more that's great for you, but it doesn't make you a better or smarter person than the next guy.
You call it high horse, I call it financial responsibility / education. That is the problem today, people think they can make 1+1=4. BMW and other companies know it, prey on it and love it.

People can do what they want, but spending half your money on a car is fine as long as you don't complain or ask for help when the consequences of that decision don't turn out well. Kind of like the people who think public roads are a good place to drive twice the speed limit because they have a "sports" car which makes them "feel" like they are in control.

I have found in life, people who know, tend to make better decisions. Like people who understand finances don't get into financial trouble and great learned track drivers don't drive twice the speed limit on public roads.

Just food for thought, but if personal attacks are your thing, keep 'em coming, I have heard worse.

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      11-12-2022, 03:20 PM   #346
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I have found people are more likely to accept unsolicited financial advice than they are willing to accept unsolicited golf advice.
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hmm... I always felt the former is kind of disrespectful, maybe even insulting where the latter is impolite or rude
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We know… There was a specific thread started on 11/10 at 8:38a. It is clearly visible on the main page.

https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1969001
My bad. Saw M2 in Configurator and rushed to share. It was available on my bday but didn't notice until today. Too much Woodford Reserve
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You call it high horse, I call it financial responsibility / education. That is the problem today, people think they can make 1+1=4. BMW and other companies know it, prey on it and love it.

People can do what they want, but spending half your money on a car is fine as long as you don't complain or ask for help when the consequences of that decision don't turn out well. Kind of like the people who think public roads are a good place to drive twice the speed limit because they have a "sports" car which makes them "feel" like they are in control.

I have found in life, people who know, tend to make better decisions. Like people who understand finances don't get into financial trouble and great learned track drivers don't drive twice the speed limit on public roads.

Just food for thought, but if personal attacks are your thing, keep 'em coming, I have heard worse.

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You were the one who was calling a well known financial guideline (Link) insanity and trash talking my response to your ridiculous take that only people who make over $350k with no kids can responsibly afford an M2. I'm not here to make personal attacks and I suggest you don't either .

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Does anyone have current residuals for 2023 M2 Auto? Are dealers closing sales using M240i RV's?
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      02-17-2023, 10:22 PM   #352
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Does anyone have current residuals for 2023 M2 Auto? Are dealers closing sales using M240i RV's?
This info has not been released yet. I'm also not sure that this info is terribly relevant to closing a deal. Is someone going to pass on this car because of the residual? If that's an issue then just finance. Or maybe I'm wrong.
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