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Hagerty - "The Secret BMW M8 Is The Only V12 Powered M-Car Ever Made"
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08-01-2024, 10:34 AM | #1 |
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Hagerty - "The Secret BMW M8 Is The Only V12 Powered M-Car Ever Made"
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08-02-2024, 11:31 AM | #2 |
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Is it just me or can Jason Cammisa be slightly uncomfortable to watch sometimes? I.e., just a little overly animated but not bad enough to turn off. Cool car and decent video nonetheless. A better watch is the one prototype M8 BMW actually did produce.
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08-02-2024, 11:50 AM | #3 |
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Yea agreed, his fruity antics can be a little cringe. I like hearing the history and facts mainly and listening to the car being driven at the end.
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08-02-2024, 01:23 PM | #4 |
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Jason's great, love this series as well, and I don't find him cringy at all.
You want cringy, try Doug Demuro. I mean, I can't even watch him let alone listen to him. |
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08-02-2024, 02:10 PM | #5 |
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I'm pretty sure this was the $80,000 BMW Blake was talking to Dave Moss about when he did that favor for Mitch & Murray.
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08-02-2024, 02:28 PM | #6 | |
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Jason needs to tone it down, but it's not his fault, it's the writers. Jason is at his best when he's not trying to be silly or whatever and just talks about the damn cars. |
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08-02-2024, 04:22 PM | #7 | |
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I think, non-scripted Jason is even more annoying, so it works for me this way. lol I do wish he'd drop the accents. My favorite bits are when he's just giving facts and walking in real time when the cars are going in slow-motion. |
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08-02-2024, 05:14 PM | #8 | |
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08-02-2024, 05:50 PM | #9 | |
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Doug and the straight pipes are probably the two most annoying channels to me. My favorite is Alex from legit street cars. |
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08-02-2024, 06:54 PM | #10 | |
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I also think he's wrong on this video, claiming that the 850csi is actually an M8. The S70B56 engine in that car isn't really special other than being a V12 (despites it's S code). It produces 375HP, which equates to around 67HP/liter, and that is not a special number. The bog standard 90's 2,8L I6 from BMW (M52B28) that was sold literally by the millions in so many models has the same specific power output (68HP/L). The (eurospec) E36 M3 (with S50B32) had 321HP from 3,2L, so 100HP/L. Thàt was a number that spoke to the imagination at that time and could only be matched by true exotics from that era like Ferrari (and thus totally different priceclass), or the McLaren F1 for that matter. Engines like this should power M cars. The euro E36 M3 was also faster in the 0-100kph sprint than the 850CSi (5,5sec versus 5,9sec). However it did came with an LSD and semi floating brake rotor's (on the front axle that is), so it's more of 'half an M car'. But such things aren't really pointed out in the video. For the real M8...check out this video that came out yesterday from dutch carjournalist Sjoerd van Bilsen; he shows the real M8, with shots from under the hood and in the boot and tells some very interesting facts. Real quality carjournalism if you ask me (he starts off with a McLaren F1 and it's engine): (obviously this video is in Dutch, but with autotranslate you can get an idea of what he's saying. He always has video's with really interesting carfacts that most people don't know)
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At least he’s not flailing around like Doug DeMuro! |
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08-02-2024, 09:53 PM | #13 |
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Henry Catchpole is my favorite, but I really like Chris Harris' off-the-cuff word choice when he's not being paid and really wants the drive. His P1 video is just epic, it was genuine surprise when he could flog it like it was an M3 and get away with it.
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08-04-2024, 10:08 AM | #15 |
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My 2 cents. If you don’t like Jason, Doug… just don’t watch them.
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08-04-2024, 10:41 AM | #17 |
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All car other reviewers bow down to Harry Metcalf.
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08-04-2024, 11:14 AM | #18 | |
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Jason is an extremely passionate individual It’s absolutely ridiculous how people find fault in people who are not like them
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The 850csi’s engine was massaged by the M division, as was its suspension, M specific body modifications such as the bumpers, side view mirrors, door handles, wheels. Interior upgrades and m stitching. Essentially all the things that went into building an M car during that period. It’s a car created by the m division at the end of the day. Prior to the euro spec 3.2l e36 m3, no m car made 100hp/l, and even that car fell shy of 100hp per/l if we convert to us standard bhp (316hp) |
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08-04-2024, 11:46 AM | #22 |
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Offering an alternative perspective. If BMW wants to make more money before regulatory mandates get even more draconian, why not just build a more modern version of this car - excluding XM design language.
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