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      05-10-2022, 01:16 PM   #67
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Michelin tires have a certain unique characteristic and once you've experienced it you're really hooked and not remotely interested in driving on a different brand of tire
They can call me a Michelin fanboi all they wan't, don't care. I've been called worse for less.
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      05-10-2022, 01:40 PM   #68
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Michelin tires have a certain unique characteristic and once you've experienced it you're really hooked and not even remotely interested in driving on a different brand of tire
Agreed, they’re often transformative to handling and feel of the car. If you’re sensitive to those aspects nothing else compares. I pestered my P-car dealer to no end when we first got our Cayenne, it just wasn’t tracking calmly at 70 mph and above. After numerous tire balancing and wheel alignment excercises it become acceptable. A year later I put Michelins on it and pure bliss happened . I had similar experiences with a few M cars, not as night and day as the Cayenne but eye opening.
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Disappointing but that makes sense. The latest spy shots look like PS4's which I think we'd all be happy with.
Yokohama can make some very good tires. They have great entries in the extreme performance categories. PS4S is old at this point, it's not out of the question that these are better than PS4S in terms of performance anyway.
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Michelin tires have a certain unique characteristic and once you've experienced it you're really hooked and not remotely interested in driving on a different brand of tire
They can call me a Michelin fanboi all they wan't, don't care. I've been called worse for less.
Conti fan boy!

Bordering on ban worthy offensiveness.
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Well, this is interesting. I noticed the tread the wraps around to the sidewall of this tire looked odd and I didn't see the typical Michelin banner. So I zoomed in and adjust the lighting to check it out and also potentially read the tire size. Unfortunately it's not clear enough to see the aspect ratio, but I was surprised to see this car is running Yokohama tires. I hope this isn't one of the tire brands that makes it to production.

P.S. You can also see the wimpy floating caliper.
If that is the case 2000K out of the box for new tires, 4K for online, another 1K for pads, 400 for end links and camber plates and spacers. So it handles well. Then at this point it better not understeer like the old one.
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Gotta say that side profile is looking nice! With more paint color options and all of the M Performance bits available for a price. This next gen is looking like it could be a winner.

Will the rear spoiler have Monza and Nurburgring settings?!! 😁
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Looks like you can spec the G87 with 1000M bronze wheels, now that's cool.

The fine details of driving excellence, waiting to be revealed.

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Damn this car looks good. I bet it's going to handle beastly as well. It's been awhile since I've been excited for release from BMW.
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I'm not sure if it's the Mandela Effect but I could of sword remembering Mercedes having just a fixed caliper on a one of their vehicles with e-brakes.. I'll cite if I locate it.

I just figure BMW is just too cheap to design one for their vehicles and it probably wouldn't be effective as floating calipers, since their new stability system "DSCi" is heavily dependent on the efficiency of electronic brakes.
The “Auto-Hold” feature is performed by the rear EPB actuators.

The rear dual-caliper photo above is from a G20 EPB aftermarket kit.
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Oh dear God…another Civic/Subaru style deck lid spoiler.
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Do you know why?
Do you know why all Porsche's have fixed calipers except for say their lower end models?
That's not an answer to my question, but yes I do.
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The “Auto-Hold” feature is performed by the rear EPB actuators.
No it is not. Auto-Hold uses the DSC pump to hold pressure on the service brakes. The EPB actuators enter a Stand-By State and will switch over if the vehicle leaves Ready/Drive State.
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Oh dear God…another Civic/Subaru style deck lid spoiler.

For realz.. 🙌

They apparently feel that the target demographic for this vehicle is the midlife crisis crowd or those young at heart.. Cause I can't imagine many 20 somethings have the resources to obtain one of these vehicles..

I just hope that shit is not standard or else l'll park my car in the hood and get the wing stolen in a few hours.. Good riddance ✌🏻


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Oh dear God…another Civic/Subaru style deck lid spoiler.

For realz.. 🙌

They apparently feel that the target demographic for this vehicle is the midlife crisis crowd or those young at heart.. Cause I can't imagine many 20 somethings have the resources to obtain one of these vehicles..

I just hope that shit is not standard or else l'll park my car in the hood and get the wing stolen in a few hours.. Good riddance ✌🏻


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I'm sure people said the same thing about the E36 LTW when it came out. And look at how many people are putting replicas of that wing on their cars. I'd reserve judgment till we see the final product.
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For realz.. ��

They apparently feel that the target demographic for this vehicle is the midlife crisis crowd or those young at heart.. Cause I can't imagine many 20 somethings have the resources to obtain one of these vehicles..

I just hope that shit is not standard or else l'll park my car in the hood and get the wing stolen in a few hours.. Good riddance ✌��


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Strongly doubt the wing is standard. This car is dressed up in the M performance catalogue. That said, I like the wing and the wheels on this car. I bet it’s beefy and aggressive enough to carry that wing as well or better than the E36 lightweight. We shall see once it’s on uncovered but as it looks here on this type of car, I like it. Would I like on a 7 series? Eh…no.
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No it is not. Auto-Hold uses the DSC pump to hold pressure on the service brakes. The EPB actuators enter a Stand-By State and will switch over if the vehicle leaves Ready/Drive State.
Can you provide the OEM document that explains this, please? It is not what I got.
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Yeah with the right mods, that wing could work nicely for the car.
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For realz.. ��

They apparently feel that the target demographic for this vehicle is the midlife crisis crowd or those young at heart.. Cause I can't imagine many 20 somethings have the resources to obtain one of these vehicles..

I just hope that shit is not standard or else l'll park my car in the hood and get the wing stolen in a few hours.. Good riddance ✌��


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Strongly doubt the wing is standard. This car is dressed up in the M performance catalogue. That said, I like the wing and the wheels on this car. I bet it's beefy and aggressive enough to carry that wing as well or better than the E36 lightweight. We shall see once it's on uncovered but as it looks here on this type of car, I like it. Would I like on a 7 series? Eh…no.
If you like it, I'm not judging, I don't derive pleasure from making anyone feel bad but just know that if you're pushing over 40 and you hop out a car with a big ass wing on the trunk and you're not at a racetrack, people will make assumptions like; "Is that his kid's car?"

Don't blame me, blame society.
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If you like it, I'm not judging, I don't derive pleasure from making anyone feel bad but just know that if you're pushing over 40 and you hop out a car with a big ass wing on the trunk and you're not at a racetrack, people will make assumptions like; "Is that his kid's car?"

Don't blame me, blame society.
I’d say it depends on the car, no one question it on the 911 Turbo through history. On a base family sedan it’s a different story. The car need to look like a serious high quality sports car everywhere to carry it without being tacky. So we’ll have to wait and see.
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If you like it, I'm not judging, I don't derive pleasure from making anyone feel bad but just know that if you're pushing over 40 and you hop out a car with a big ass wing on the trunk and you're not at a racetrack, people will make assumptions like; "Is that his kid's car?"

Don't blame me, blame society.
I'd say it depends on the car, no one question it on the 911 Turbo through history. On a base family sedan it's a different story. The car need to look like a serious high quality sports car everywhere to carry it without being tacky. So we'll have to wait and see.
Agreed. A Porsche is different, that model screams money and the spoiler is somewhat functional, so it gets a pass..

Same as when you hear a Lambo or Ferrari making a lot of noise and kicking up dust, no one assumes it's some tacked-on noise maker, you just know it's the nature of the beast, specifically a bull or prancing horse.

BMWs, even the M models, just doesn't ring the same bell IMHO. I mean, it can rock a spoiler but nothing excessive like it's trying too hard to be something it's not.
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