[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Hello Guys,

We finised some of our prototype BOV Kits. They are list price $750..


** We have them at a special intro price of $595****

[imolazhp_ci]

why does Active Autowerke do this all the time? they give some a completely obscene "list price" and then then present a "special" price that is comparable to a normal retail price but by no means special. it's like when they came out with their E60 M5 software for what? $3000.00, hahahaha. then lowered it to like $2000? or $1500? or something still ridiculous.

[ironic]

lol that's a lot of money for a BOV, out of my league

[///M3NACE]

doesnt a BOV make da Psi lower and hence make da car a lil slower...why get one..so it can sound like one of the ricers? haha

[imolazhp_ci]

Originally Posted by ihsanshaik

doesnt a BOV make da Psi lower and hence make da car a lil slower...why get one..so it can sound like one of the ricers? haha

yes. it does. on a recirculating diverter valve system, such as the 335i... changing to a blowoff valve which is atmospheric WILL cause some adverse effects on the power, or at least the delivery of the power, despite what anyone tells you. it will. it's reverse engineering a properly working system, to a less capable system, the only cars that use blow off valves stock are ones with aftermarket turbo systems because it isnt cost effective to completely redesign the cars entire vacuum system.

[edgarj]

The price is extremely high, but FWIW, it does look a very nice kit.

Why create a unique BOV with such a wide array of choices already on the market?

[edgarj]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

yes. it does. on a recirculating diverter valve system, such as the 335i... changing to a blowoff valve which is atmospheric WILL cause some adverse effects on the power, or at least the delivery of the power, despite what anyone tells you. it will. it's reverse engineering a properly working system, to a less capable system, the only cars that use blow off valves stock are ones with aftermarket turbo systems because it isnt cost effective to completely redesign the cars entire vacuum system.

How is venting into the airbox any better than venting atmospherically other than accoustic differences?

[1clean335i]

wow, that special price is still $200 more than the other bov's available for the 335i.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

yes. it does. on a recirculating diverter valve system, such as the 335i... changing to a blowoff valve which is atmospheric WILL cause some adverse effects on the power, or at least the delivery of the power, despite what anyone tells you. it will. it's reverse engineering a properly working system, to a less capable system, the only cars that use blow off valves stock are ones with aftermarket turbo systems because it isnt cost effective to completely redesign the cars entire vacuum system.

Wrong. We would not sell a product that does this. The 335 is completely different. For further questions on that please give us a call.

[edgarj]

So what R&D did you guys do on your BOV in order to justify a 40% premium over kits using BOV's provided from companies specialiaing in this technology? Have you created a superior product compared to HKS, TiAl, GReddy, forge when venting ~10psi of "bavarian" pressure into the atmosphere? Does it go to 11? For $750 I bet it goes to 12.

[Joe Bimmer]

Originally Posted by edgarj

So what R&D did you guys do on your BOV in order to justify a 40% premium over kits using BOV's provided from companies specialiaing in this technology? Have you created a superior product compared to HKS, TiAl, GReddy, forge when venting ~10psi of "bavarian" pressure into the atmosphere? Does it go to 11? For $750 I bet it goes to 12.

+1

[imolazhp_ci]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Wrong. We would not sell a product that does this. The 335 is completely different. For further questions on that please give us a call.

yeah ok. you keep believing that. i just hope nobody buys into this crap you are selling.

[RetroGamerJP]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

yes. it does. on a recirculating diverter valve system, such as the 335i... changing to a blowoff valve which is atmospheric WILL cause some adverse effects on the power, or at least the delivery of the power, despite what anyone tells you. it will. it's reverse engineering a properly working system, to a less capable system, the only cars that use blow off valves stock are ones with aftermarket turbo systems because it isnt cost effective to completely redesign the cars entire vacuum system.

get a clue... do you even own a 335i? Have you ever owned a Turbo car?

The AA system is a well designed product. If you don't like the price then don't buy it.

[imolazhp_ci]

Originally Posted by jp335i

get a clue... do you even own a 335i? Have you ever owned a Turbo car?

The AA system is a well designed product. If you don't like the price then don't buy it.

probably far more than you.

[edgarj]

Originally Posted by jp335i

get a clue... do you even own a 335i? Have you ever owned a Turbo car?

The AA system is a well designed product. If you don't like the price then don't buy it.

And weren't you the one hooning around a vacant parking lot with your GReddy BOV as if auditioning for a scene in the Fast and the wütend? As in the OG of German rice?

It's completely logical to question the price of a vendor with NO experience in said technology, relative to the competition or not, on a product priced >40% higher than even market leader's product applied via custom fitting. Note that it's the same level of technology entailed by many products found at a pumbing supply store, but fashoned for intensive automotive use and calibrated (in some cases, depending on technology, i.e. TiAl's method) for specific application ranges. To be fair, this BOV is shaped like a horn. It may be possible, with the addition of a remote servo, to aim it at bitches as you pass. As in "PSSHHH baby, no dneyin' I'm rollin 335i!". Maybe. Even if static in it's direction, it's probably like those Klipsch horns in it's accosutic superiority over omnidirectional BOV's. Immaging they call it.

Even under this level of optimism....this reeks of pseudo-custom fabrication for people who think that a BOV's duty is more demanding on a 335i boosting 10psi than say, a single turbo Supra forcing 30psi. Come on, $600 (discounted) for a BOV that's "BMW specific"? And from a company with zero record of producing BOV's. Zero, right?

Insane or ahead of their time? Perhaps some new technology lurks behind that cold aluminum horn-like facade. Do share a vague description of this new approach to the blow off valve, but hold fast to those propriatery details of venting Bavarian pressure atmospherically. Intellectual property, blah, blah, blah.

The kit looks to be top notch in photo aesthetic, but its the least appliction-specific mod to date, save for wheels/tires, and is priced as if application-specific technology were the basis for the margin. Do you actually think that companies such as GReddy, TiAl, Forge, HKS, who have engineered multi platform BOV's for many years, arent laughing at this niche marketing smoke?

This is a classic example of a company marketing simple technilogy as 'make specific' when in actuallity it's just a regurgitation of basic principals in an aesthetically/superficially modified form suited for uninformed consumers under the delusion that their car is 'special'. The stock diverter vents pressure to the intake box. A BOV vents the same pressure atmospherically and makes a noise doing so. The 335i is very mundane in this aspect when compared to other F/I platforms, and this kit is very mundane (other than price, retail or "forum discounted). The Kool-aide, in this case, is custom made only in the sense that the kit only fits one car and is marketed accordingly. Shame on AA for feigning Dinan in such low-rent posture. When are the AA aluminum pedals made specifically for the 335i going to be released? I hear that they really shave weight off the front end and improve throttle response due to lower mass.

[ibd12nv]

any sound clips??..

[2009BMW335]

yea nice piece but whoever buys one of these at that price is truely an idiot.

[imolazhp_ci]

and for those asking what the disadvantage to vent atmospherically as opposed to recirculating to the airbox? when you vent atmospherically, it isn't necesarilly bad, it's just not as good as recirculating to the airbox because what that does is keep the airbox pressurized which leads to noticably quicker throttle response. it's the same reason you feel lag when changing an intake on a turbo car.

[memselk]

waste of money.. for what? pushhh!

[BMW_E90]

thats way too much for a blow off.

[Hunter399]

Active has SUCH a fantastic reputation, I find it hard to believe they would release something that would hurt the performance of the 335

[imolazhp_ci]

Originally Posted by hunter399

Active has SUCH a fantastic reputation, I find it hard to believe they would release something that would hurt the performance of the 335

it doesn't necesarilly hurt the performance. but it far from helps it, the thing is... it can potentially hurt your car. it can't potentially help your car.