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      10-30-2017, 03:52 PM   #1
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CBU Cleaning: Intake only?

I've called around a couple of shops. Some are indicating they mainly just clean the intake rather than the full blown cleaning. I realize purists will say this is half assed way that probably will postpone the inevitable. What do you all think?

I'm not excited about spending $1500-2000 to get the whole job done but I'm also not a full blown DIY guy. What I do potentially feel comfortable with is following the recent (remove your intake in 15 minutes) to pull it off and have it professionally cleaned. If I go the later route (presume it will take me an hour, rather than 15 mins) are their other components (obviously not the head) that I should consider removing and sending off if I go that route?
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      10-30-2017, 04:41 PM   #2
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I've sent off my intake and got it cleaned, else wise all u can do is walnut blast the rest of the stuff
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      10-30-2017, 06:54 PM   #3
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I've sent off my intake and got it cleaned, else wise all u can do is walnut blast the rest of the stuff
Thinking of doing the same. If looks bad after I tear down then a different path. Where/what type of shop did you send it off to?
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      10-31-2017, 01:37 AM   #4
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I send it off to lordco Langley machine shop. That's located in Canada so you'd have to ask the us guys about where to go
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there is a European shop in Houston that does it for $400.. intake and head blasting keeps shopping if prices are 1500-2000!

I did a half assed job my self and used a scrub brush and a vacuum to clean the head. my end results were pretty good
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I have a few quotes, seem to be a bit all over the place. From one shop indicating they would only clean the intake, to one shop saying it would take them a whole week to do it all.

My local shop I've used before is offering a fair deal to do the whole job as indicated by the service bulletin for about $1000. Tempted to go with that, but alsotempted to just first remove the intake myself and find a machine shop that can ultrasonic clean. But that of course is hinging on the rest of it not looking bad.
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Dang, I've called around to half a dozen machine shops/engine rebuilders and no one wants to touch a plastic manifold.
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      11-01-2017, 03:59 PM   #8
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intake

A local shop used a less corrosive solution, which they seem to use quite a bit since there are more and more plastic parts on cars these days. Took 2 days, but came out great. Several have done it at home.
If you take the intake off, chances are the CBU will need cleaning on both the intake and head(ports). I can't really think of why one would be O.K. and the other not (unless someone had already done intake only).
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Yeah I really would prefer to not make a mess with a pressure washer or chemicals at home, and frankly don't want to approach the head myself. Thought maybe this could be a temporary less expensive improvement, but maybe I'm better off just letting a shop do the whole job. My preferred shop is around $1000, but found another recommended a couple years ago willing to do it for $750.
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ask your preferred for a cost break down and figure out where the extra is coming in at... the disassembly is not complex and takes no time. it is probably 1 hour for removal and reinstall although they may charge two hours (1 for each). The full gasket set is really cheap $25 with shipping that is all you need to do the job.. the rest is labor for cleaning and I don't think it is $750-800 worth of labor to do that..

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https://www.idparts.com/intake-manif...57-p-5842.html
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ask your preferred for a cost break down and figure out where the extra is coming in at... the disassembly is not complex and takes no time. it is probably 1 hour for removal and reinstall although they may charge two hours (1 for each). The full gasket set is really cheap $25 with shipping that is all you need to do the job.. the rest is labor for cleaning and I don't think it is $750-800 worth of labor to do that..

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https://www.idparts.com/intake-manif...57-p-5842.html
Correction, the lowest I have quoted is $650.

And that shop is quoting 2 hours to do the cleaning, and about 3 hours to do the removal and reinstall of the intake. Only parts quoted are $42 for the gaskets, and $45 for the walnut media.

The only other shop I have a break down from quoted me:

13 hours to do the job (including cleaning the injectors) for $1500, sending the intake out for cleaning $250, and then replacing a bunch of others gaskets and injector parts (seals, o-rings, fuel injector parts), plus one hose (not sure what it is, but $170 for it), totaling about $500 in parts alone.

One other shop told me they would clean just the intake manifold for $750, claiming they have had success just cleaning that. They said if I wanted the entire service bulletin done it would cost $3500.

Wild.

Thanks for the link on the parts! That's cheap! I have a few questions out to the $650 quote, and if it sounds good, I might go with them.
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take that $650!

His labor rate sounds average at $112 (ASE??), $42 for gaskets is about expected and $45 for the walnut is what it is..
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take that $650!

His labor rate sounds average at $112 (ASE??), $42 for gaskets is about expected and $45 for the walnut is what it is..
Yup, I was searching the archives where someone mentioned this shop local to me does the cleaning for $450 (couple years ago). I wasn't familiar with the shop but they get great reviews online, not sure about ASE.

Their quote was a little odd as it indicates 2 hours to blast the valves but nothing else other than remove and reinstall the intake. Asking about the manifold itself to confirm it's a full cleaning. $110/hour.
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