[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

M2's hold value better than M240i's, this is not news.

You're also paying like $10K more initially to get a very small increase in performance for daily driving. As I said, if you track it often, absolutely require stick, and live where it doesn't snow/rain a lot, the M2 might be the move, but for most the 230i is fine, almost all the M240i, and a very few the M2. (anyone have the sales figures handy?)

Moreover, the MPG is like 1/3 worse in the M2, so you're likely paying a lot more in gas over the long run (but everything gets pissy when that's brought up).

"A very small increase in performance"?

I am by no means a die hard car enthusiast, and I do not track, but I can say without hesitation that after driving a number of non-M BMWs, and making the jump to my F87, it's night and day. And not just in terms of performance. But fun factor as well.

I daily my F87 year round in Denver, and am currently running my winter wheel setup, and it's still better than any non-M car I've ever driven. Especially in the recent snow we just had…because RWD in the snow is still fun as an adult

Basically my opinion is that if there is no financial constraints, the the M car is always the right decision over a non-M.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by DanG

I have to agree. M cars are in a different class than regular BMWs. Handling and performance is always better. I would get an M2 over an M240i any day.

Especially with the bicycle tires on the 240...I had a 235, so I am allowed to poke fun all I want.

[Albator_IIII]

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

what is the red car?

also can anyone translate the text in the post

Looks like a M340i.

[bromudez]

It's wider than the 240i but not by much. At least nothing like the F87 vs the F22.

[CodeSlinger]

Originally Posted by bromudez

It's wider than the 240i but not by much. At least nothing like the F87 vs the F22.

It's wider by a pretty substantial margin, but it was a bigger delta on the f22/f87. Interestingly the F87 is closer in width to the g42 than the G87

F22 / F87 - 1774mm / 1854mm -> 80mm wider

G42 / G87 - 1838mm / 1887mm -> 49mm wider

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by 440i6MT

I just don't think it's big enough.

It's a fat pig compared to the outgoing car 🐽

Not sure what you're thinking

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by Albator_IIII

Looks like a M340i.

It is. M340i LCI.

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

I'm seeing weight from 3818 to 3900 pounds where are you seeing 3750? Also not sure why you think I "hate" a car. You know people can have opinions and not "hate" something right? I realize the quickest defense in discussion is calling somebody a "hater". It's a car it's not that serious. I'm also not loyal to any car brand. I don't have stock in BMW. Do you? Why are you so defensive.

People in this forum always have something to take a shit on. 6 Series GT for me, I'm sad because 6 deserved better rather than being made into what we have now. LOL

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by AzraNxien

People in this forum always have something to take a shit on. 6 Series GT for me, I'm sad because 6 deserved better rather than being made into what we have now. LOL

The 8er is the new 6er… 🤑

Go figure…

[boostspoon]

M2 looks beefy and planted like a bulldog. G42 doesn't have an aggressive personality - it just looks like an F Boy car that someone puts a fat lip spoiler seen on camaros, even F82 M4s.

Either way, people will forget about the G series 240 like they did with the F series 235/240. When you see one, you just stereotype the owner "do they know base-base comparison, they could've paid a little more for the M-car? or man, do the money they spent on mods could've got them the M-car.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by boostspoon

M2 looks beefy and planted like a bulldog. G42 doesn't have an aggressive personality - it just looks like an F Boy car that someone puts a fat lip spoiler seen on camaros, even F82 M4s.

Either way, people will forget about the G series 240 like they did with the F series 235/240. When you see one, you just stereotype the owner "do they know base-base comparison, they could've paid a little more for the M-car? or man, do the money they spent on mods could've got them the M-car.

Agreed 💯

In many ways G42 looks better vs the G87 M2

Way more cohesive

Way more BMW

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

The 8er is the new 6er… 🤑

Go figure…

That explains why I kept calling M8 as AWD M6.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by AzraNxien

That explains why I kept calling M8 an AWD M6.

Don't worry, it's not just you, they've easily confused the masses

Done intentionally actually

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Seeing the wide rear hips of the G87 M2 here from the bird eye's view above make me like this new car even more.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Seeing the wide rear hips of the G87 M2 here from the bird eye's view above make me like this new car even more.

Agreed…

I'd love to see the same comparison vs the f87

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Don't worry, it's not just you, they've easily confused the masses

Done intentionally

M6 LCI barely had any changes. So does M8 LCI. No S68, no iDrive 8, no HP increase for 840i, still M850i and not M860i (due to S68).

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by AzraNxien

M6 LCI barely had any changes. So does M8 LCI. No S68, no iDrive 8, no HP increase for 840i, still M850i and not M860i (due to S68).

Sells just fine in small numbers

No real insensitive accordingly

[donm527]

Agreed. The M2 from overhead view is its best angle.

Too bad you can’t see the M2 from overhead view on the road lol.

But seriously the M2 from that overhead angle show how sexy the car could have been if they taken that curvy overhead shape and also translated it into more rounded front and rear than the blocky look. The curve on that rear end is sexy from overhead. Then you look at her from the rear… ugh.

Maybe with the M2 Comp they will improve it.

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

Seeing the wide rear hips of the G87 M2 here from the bird eye's view above make me like this new car even more.

[bmwfan1027]

Originally Posted by Tag

This was posted on the @bmwgroupplantslp IG and shows the first pics I've seen of the two cars alongside each other. You can really see how much wider the M2 is compared to the M240i, especially in the overhead view.

IG

I will admit that at first I was not a fan of the new M2 and thought it was too boxy in the front and rear. The more I'm seeing it online, the more it's growing on me! I still don't like the fat lip in the rear with that back bumper, and I HATE iDrive 8...... Other than those two things, I think it will be a great car.

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

"A very small increase in performance"?

I am by no means a die hard car enthusiast, and I do not track, but I can say without hesitation that after driving a number of non-M BMWs, and making the jump to my F87, it's night and day. And not just in terms of performance. But fun factor as well.

I daily my F87 year round in Denver, and am currently running my winter wheel setup, and it's still better than any non-M car I've ever driven. Especially in the recent snow we just had…because RWD in the snow is still fun as an adult

Basically my opinion is that if there is no financial constraints, the the M car is always the right decision over a non-M.

That is exactly right. I had 3 Ms, then decided that a 335iS would be OK. That lasted 1 year, and I hustled back to an M3. There IS a (big) difference.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

That is exactly right. I had 3 Ms, then decided that a 335iS would be OK. That lasted 1 year, and I hustled back to an M3. There IS a (big) difference.

That's why the old naming convention was much better - iS isn't trying to be an M, it's just better than the base car.

This M lite stuff is for the birds - that's why I removed the M from my 235 - that thing had no business having that letter on the car.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

Gonna be another G8X story..
"Ew, it's ugly" "Grill is ruined"

Yet people flock to them now.

Nah those beaver grills are still ugly af.

Originally Posted by AzraNxien

"M2 fanbois are out in force defending this Chinese nostrosity"

I mean, were we excepting F87 with interior from G80/G82?

I was not expecting a Chinese looking minecraft box though. The M2's exterior reception is quite simply bad. Go outside this sub to see for yourself. Even the BMW subreddit hates it.

I was also hoping for better interior options than the G42, but aside from some very overpriced carbon seats, I much prefer the red leather offered in the M240i.

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

"A very small increase in performance"?

I am by no means a die hard car enthusiast, and I do not track, but I can say without hesitation that after driving a number of non-M BMWs, and making the jump to my F87, it's night and day. And not just in terms of performance. But fun factor as well.

I daily my F87 year round in Denver, and am currently running my winter wheel setup, and it's still better than any non-M car I've ever driven. Especially in the recent snow we just had…because RWD in the snow is still fun as an adult

Basically my opinion is that if there is no financial constraints, the the M car is always the right decision over a non-M.

The G42 is very close in performance (and aggressive looks) to the F87. In Denver the xDrive version would honestly be the safer move that most would prefer. I've driven those roads to ski and would definitely want it, but each to their own.

If I had no financial constraints, I wouldn't be driving a BMW ... that makes no sense. You have to weigh the $10K price difference and 1/3 worse MPG otherwise we would all be comparing to Ferrari / Lambo's, etc.