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Also I modified the software to meet the requirements of several insurance companies that were running trials on trip logging and driving behavior -- speeding and braking events among other things. (And somewhere in that time I did a version for a government agency which wanted a device that could be plugged into the vehicle and in a few seconds determine if the car was emissions compliant.) My employer was a bit early to this market. As part of my job I attended a conference -- ToolTech 2014 -- held in Sonoma CA with the conference running several days at the Fairmont Inn there. The conference was attended by hundreds of people in the automotive industry. (The room had a seating capacity of over 400 and there were people standing.) The big topic was vehicle/driving data collection. And this was not a recent event but rather around 10 years ago. April 28 to May 1 2014. Later in 2014 my employer decided to leave this automotive test equipment business and focus on other products in the consumer space. But of course a number of other companies turned their focus to vehicle/driving data collection. A change though in the vehicle/driver telematics business was rather than have to plug a 3rd party device into the car's OBD2 port auto makers built this telematics into the car's electronics. Better make sure that foil hat is cinched on nice and tight... |
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The data is there for those who wish to access it, but I'm not doing any more work for you. |
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Although in the US information sharing to 3rd parties with implied consent seems to be possible, this isn’t the case in Europe and Canada. GDPR in Europe and PIPEDA in Canada restrict information sharing to 3rd parties without specific consent when it is used for purposes other than the primary conducting of business between BMW and customers, which would not cover sending of info to an organisation such as an insurance company. The only exception to this is information relating to law enforcement.
In reading the BMW Canada ConnectedDrive terms and conditions, they seem to be consistent with the privacy legislation requirements. We also don’t have any opt-out options in ConnectedDrive to select, as opt-out for BMW sending of personal customer info to 3rd parties is the default legal position. |
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I completely deactivated mine as well. No “intelligent routes” or reminders for me, thanks.
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Log in and go to your car in My Garage on the BMWusa.com web site. Click on View Vehicle Profile, link is just to the right and below the description. On the top of the new page, you will see four menu options. Choose the forth, CarData. Here you can read more about BMW's policy, see if any third-party has permission to see your record (and remove them if desired), and ask for a copy of your Report. They are very emphatic that you are in control of who sees your data. BMW is not sharing your driving info with insurance companies. |
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When I logged into MyGarage this morning on desktop I had a notice to accept the Terms of Service for BMWConnectedDrive. In it I found this. It doesn't say they will share your data with insurance, but they can if you allow them. Who knows if it's opt in or opt out. Little too close to comfort for me.
I couldn't find the page that let's me disable Connected Drive. Maybe it's because I haven't accepted the TOS. |
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How did you find these options? I assume its on the phone app but i was unable to find them
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Click the blue “Settings” link. You’ll see those options in the “Privacy Settings” under Data Privacy. Unless, as mentioned, this is market exclusive. |
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What the heck...
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You guys are falling for the theatrics - while you focus on the bogus news stories of sharing data, you ignore the real causes for car insurance rates to shoot up:
1 - Laws that prevent insurance companies from using your credit score and other signs of being a responsible citizen to rate you. 2 - The incredible amount of illegal immigrants, criminals, and the like driving around uninsured and with total disregard for laws and rules. 3 - The incredible rise in car theft. That causes the theft loss, but, more importantly, generate a ton of accidents as those cars are driven around with nothing to loose. 4 - The laws and rules preventing law enforcement to target high crime areas and high crime populations. If you stop and question a male teen in crime infested area, you have to also stop and question a grandma coming out of church - you know - you have to be equitable. 5 - The unavailability of technical/skilled labor for repairs, because our government is preaching that college and college only is the path to success. 6 - General attitude that the "rich", you know these BMW owners, need to pay (for others). Put it all together and there is a ton of government policy driving higher auto insurance rates. AND - get this straight .... It is a feature of their policies, not a bug. No, they don't want you to have nice things.
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State with the lowest true cost: Massachusetts State with the highest true cost: Louisiana Metro area with the lowest true cost: Seattle Metro area with the highest true cost: Detroit This is not some deliberate government conspiracy to deprive you of a BMW. It is simply the result of inflation, price gouging, driving habits, and weather. Last edited by chris719; 03-19-2024 at 08:41 PM.. |
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Re illegal immigrants (since you chose to pick on only that one sub topic), it is not illegal immigration that changed. It is that since 2020 enforcement of laws related to driving with expired tags, no insurance and the like, and all the proactive broken-windows enforcement ceased in many urban areas. It is the lack of enforcement that is new, not illegal immigration. You and I will have insurance regardless if there is enforcement or not. But a growing part of the population will do anything they can get away with it.
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My rate went up 20% and I did everything they mentioned in this video to bring it down.
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Mine’s up 15 or 20%. It has more to do with the idiots out there driving recklessly and the price of cars than anything else. More than 20% is suspicious, I think. Maybe increase your deductible or make other changes if possible within reason..
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