03-30-2022, 12:45 PM | #23 |
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The bummer is no one does a great job providing a loaded luxury car in a small package. For example, maybe I want all the plush ride and tech gadgetry of the 8 series, S class, etc. without having to pilot a barge. The 4-series may be capable, but I can't get rear seat heating or the highest-end audio option? Maybe it's hard to justify 100k for a smaller sedan comparing them to the lengthy higher-tier counterparts.
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I've never driven the A45S, but I agree with them about the RS3 and M240i. At first, the Audi wows you with its great and iconic sounding engine and seems like a rocket on wheels, but after a while when you start to push really hard you clearly feel some flaws, such as the annoying turbo-lag, the dated gearbox, the heavy nose and the strange behavior of the 4WD system too governed by electronics and little by mechanics, sometimes understeering, sometimes oversteering, sometimes neutral, never the same, all but predictable and definitely front biased. Exciting at the beginning and always very fast, but boring and not much entertaining after a while, too "fake". The BMW is totally the opposite, it feels very composed right away and may seem slow, dull, but when you really start driving you discover a beautifully balanced chassis, a RWD feel with no gimmick driving modes to activate and a real mechanical interaction, and the well known lovely straight 6, strong but gentle and always ready to push (but in a softer way than Audi's angry 5-pot). It definitely requires more time to be discovered and appreciated. And yes, a well-tuned torque converter transmission can be better than a dated dual-clutch box. In any case, I don't see any possible comparison to the M4 or 8 Series; they're too far apart in terms of performance and handling (M4) and luxury (8er), respectively. The only common point is that all three are small and uncomfortable in the back seats, despite their size. |
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03-30-2022, 02:05 PM | #25 |
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Anyone who's saying the M240 / 2 series is comparable to the 8 clearly have never driven one. M240i is clearly a fantastic car which serves a purpose, but I'd not be trading my 8 for one at any point.
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As mentioned in my earlier post I've agreed to trade in my 8 for a new M240i. Admittedly I've not driven the latter yet, but I've had an F23 M240i and lengthy drive in a new M440i so I've got a fairly good idea of what to expect... |
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Agree, the 8 series doesn't look as much as a dinky toy and more as a high class coupe, but it's also that boyish boxy design that appeals to me and doesn't abate capability in any way. |
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03-30-2022, 03:55 PM | #33 |
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The 8 series and the prior 6 series are a mystery to me.
Not the price, the fact that the rear seats have less room than a 4er or a 2er… bizarre!
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03-30-2022, 05:15 PM | #34 | |
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Specifically the previous 6er. At least 8 series has foldable rear seat in case you need more trunk room. But both have nice and luxury cockpit. I can say the most beautiful dashboard….
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2 series: Performance small coupe.
4 Series: Performance/practical mid size coupe. 8 Series: Big Sexy coupe. What I don't understand is why the obvious comparison car to the 2 is never mentioned, the Z4! That's the real sports coupe. If I was'nt so hung up on AWD, I'd seriously consider it.
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I agree with you it’s a big shame they don’t have xDrive. Also in the UK it has an older version of the B58 with less power. So the M240i looks a lot stronger |
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I kinda got that - 8 is a bigger 6, 4 is a bigger 2 but now 2 is even bigger so it's a 3.5 - right?
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03-31-2022, 10:02 AM | #39 |
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The 8 is actually a tad smaller than the 6 was, more like a 5.97.
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These reviews are just hell bent on having a contrarian end point and outsmarting themselves. They just explained all the reasons I'd ever need to buy one, and then claimed it was missing something… yet they couldn't identify what. I couldn't drive the 2 daily because I need a family size sedan. But when I'm able to keep two vehicles, the 2 is on my list for that second car that's just for me. I don't think it's bad that the 2 is a smaller 4. Just like I appreciate my 5 being similar to a mini 7.
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Keep telling yourself everything that will justify your thoughts. However, the 2 Series doesn’t hold a candle to 8 Series in every aspect. |
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