[Bandit009]

[QUOTE=Bandit009;30878932]Nope. Just my phone. I don’t carry a wallet either or cash. Timley.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/05/lifest...ill-carry-one/

[PP3121]

My card never worked for me. It says that it is connected and active, yet it will not open the door. It is a decoration above my office desk on a shelf!

As far as phone, have Note 22 Ultra but not with Ultra Bandwidth capability so cannot use the phone as a key either. Can unlock and start with the remote features via the app.

Might have to go back and try again so that I have a backup.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by Bandit009

Nope. Just my phone. I don’t carry a wallet either or cash.

[QUOTE=Bandit009;30879949]

Originally Posted by Bandit009

Nope. Just my phone. I don’t carry a wallet either or cash. Timley.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/05/lifest...ill-carry-one/

I have to laugh at that article when Millennials, the worst of all generations, claim to be cool and yet ageist (oh the irony) vs Gen z by not carrying wallets.

I might be wrong in claiming the “trend” started in Europe but I (a member of the best generation - X) have been cashless for over 10 years. I do like a mechanical watch but also tend to go watchless quite regularly now as I use my phone. Keyless is the newest fad for me. I don’t carry keys to the car or home anymore.

As an aside, I recall chip and pin being near non existent in the US at one time even to the point of having to provide I’d with a card payment. Have our American chums progressed to fully contactless payments these days?

[Bandit009]

[QUOTE=PP3121;30880063]My card never worked for me. It says that it is connected and active, yet it will not open the door. It is a decoration above my office desk on a shelf!

As far as phone, have Note 22 Ultra but not with Ultra Bandwidth capability so cannot use the phone as a key either. Can unlock and start with the remote features via the app.

Might have to go back and try again so that I have a backup.

There was a recall on the wallet keys. Maybe yours was deactivated.

[PP3121]

[QUOTE=Bandit009;30880644]

Originally Posted by PP3121

There was a recall on the wallet keys. Maybe yours was deactivated.

Thanks for that. Will definitely look into it again!

[redcars]

Is it only possible to link your profile to only one NFC device? Either the card or phone, but not both? I can't get both tied to my profile to set my seat position and radio presets.

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by redcars

Is it only possible to link your profile to only one NFC device? Either the card or phone, but not both? I can't get both tied to my profile to set my seat position and radio presets.

I have card, key, watch and phone all linked to one profile.

[VegasG42]

[QUOTE=Bandit009;30880644]

Originally Posted by PP3121

My card never worked for me. It says that it is connected and active, yet it will not open the door. It is a decoration above my office desk on a shelf!

As far as phone, have Note 22 Ultra but not with Ultra Bandwidth capability so cannot use the phone as a key either. Can unlock and start with the remote features via the app.

Might have to go back and try again so that I have a backup.

There was a recall on the wallet keys. Maybe yours was deactivated.

So not only do you have to have a specific phone, it also has to have that specific feature for it to work? Is there a more specific name for what I should look for when buying a new phone?

[Fronzdan]

Originally Posted by Pentland

I have card, key, watch and phone all linked to one profile.

Whoa….you can use the watch too?? I like that better than the card or phone. Probably can’t have the watch linked independently or without the phone enabled though, right?

See what I don’t like about the phone is, to start the car, the phone simply has to be placed in the reader (or charger if you have it). But say you forget your phone in there, which isn’t that hard to do accidentally. In theory, couldn’t someone just break in and drive off since the phone would allow anyone to start the car?

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by Fronzdan

Whoa….you can use the watch too?? I like that better than the card or phone. Probably can’t have the watch linked independently or without the phone enabled though, right?

See what I don’t like about the phone is, to start the car, the phone simply has to be placed in the reader (or charger if you have it). But say you forget your phone in there, which isn’t that hard to do accidentally. In theory, couldn’t someone just break in and drive off since the phone would allow anyone to start the car?

I can tell you just now that I can use the watch without having my phone on me. I think you apply cards to each wallet independently.

You could leave your phone in the car and lock the car with your watch.
The car does warn you that your phone is still in the charger.
You can’t protect against stupid.

[Fronzdan]

Originally Posted by Pentland

I can tell you just now that I can use the watch without having my phone on me. I think you apply cards to each wallet independently.

You could leave your phone in the car and lock the car with your watch.
The car does warn you that your phone is still in the charger.
You can’t protect against stupid.

This is probably why iDrive will actually warn you with a “Hey stupid, you left your phone in the cradle!” message. Just don’t get me started on the wife’s practice of leaving her FOB in the cup holder of her car and not locking the doors. 😱

So I just downloaded the app onto my watch. I can see I can unlock and remote start. I’ll try the unlock by holding the watch near the handle. But how to start the engine? Does the watch have to be placed in the tray?

[Obsessive Detail]

Originally Posted by Fronzdan

This is probably why iDrive will actually warn you with a “Hey stupid, you left your phone in the cradle!” message. Just don’t get me started on the wife’s practice of leaving her FOB in the cup holder of her car and not locking the doors. 😱

So I just downloaded the app onto my watch. I can see I can unlock and remote start. I’ll try the unlock by holding the watch near the handle. But how to start the engine? Does the watch have to be placed in the tray?

I don’t think you can start the car with the watch in the tray, only the phone.

[Fronzdan]

Originally Posted by Obsessive Detail

I don’t think you can start the car with the watch in the tray, only the phone.

Just tested it and yep, put the watch in the tray and it starts lol

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by Obsessive Detail

I don’t think you can start the car with the watch in the tray, only the phone.

Yes you can.

[redcars]

The trick is starting the car without taking off your watch. Can you contort your wrist and possibly get it stuck?

[Fronzdan]

Originally Posted by redcars

The trick is starting the car without taking off your watch. Can you contort your wrist and possibly get it stuck?

True…I had to take it off…and do I really want to do that?? Nope.

[Obsessive Detail]

Originally Posted by Fronzdan

Just tested it and yep, put the watch in the tray and it starts lol

Awesome, when I tried my watch it wouldn’t work. Have to try it again.

[Fronzdan]

Originally Posted by Obsessive Detail

Awesome, when I tried my watch it wouldn’t work. Have to try it again.

I don’t think it matters but I put it face down

[redcars]

You brought up the BMW card in the wallet app first?

[Fronzdan]

Originally Posted by redcars

You brought up the BMW card in the wallet app first?

For the phone you don’t have to. Once you’ve added the card in your wallet you just tap it on the door handle to unlock and put it in the cradle to start.

Same for the watch, but you first have to copy the card to the watch. You do that in the watch app. Open the app, scroll down to “Wallet and Apple Pay”. You add the card from your wallet app there.

[04eyes]

When you guys unlock and start with phone/watch does idrive automatically login to your BMW id?

When I unlock and start with the keyfob the system knows it's me and logs on. If I use my phone, I have to select my profile and then enter my pin number.

I'm not sure if this is normal?

[Fronzdan]

I haven’t had a chance to play with that yet, but yes, I noticed if you start your car with the phone or watch it doesn’t default to your regular FOB profile. There may be a way to link them or copy your profile to new profiles. But I think they all have different ones.