[aerobod]

Originally Posted by boostspoon

Either way, people will forget about the G series 240 like they did with the F series 235/240. When you see one, you just stereotype the owner "do they know base-base comparison, they could've paid a little more for the M-car? or man, do the money they spent on mods could've got them the M-car.

On the other hand, the M240i F22 made the F22 M2 look quite expensive for what you got. For a daily driver the M240i had virtually the same acceleration as the OGM2 and suspension tuning (with the standard adjustable suspension) more suited to daily use. Our 2017 M240i was CAD$50,500 (USD$38,000) taxes-in on-the-road, about 2/3 the price of an M2 at the time and that was as an ordered car too, not one sitting on the lot. It made no sense to pay so much more for a car that didn't spend a lot of time at the track.

With the lack of manual in the G42 M240i and a closer price, the G87 M2 makes more sense now.

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

That's why the old naming convention was much better - iS isn't trying to be an M, it's just better than the base car.

This M lite stuff is for the birds - that's why I removed the M from my 235 - that thing had no business having that letter on the car.

bUt yOu rUiNeD tHeIr pOiNt!!!!!


Also X2 xDrive35i when? pls.

[donm527]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

If I had no financial constraints, I wouldn't be driving a BMW ... that makes no sense. You have to weigh the $10K price difference and 1/3 worse MPG otherwise we would all be comparing to Ferrari / Lambo's, etc.

If I have no financial contraints I'd get a 911 over an M2 or a Cayman GTS if I were going matching it with a M2 with rear seat delete. I wouldn't be comparing to Ferrari's and Lambos. That's a whole 'nother level.

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

Nah those beaver grills are still ugly af.

I was not expecting a Chinese looking minecraft box though. The M2's exterior reception is quite simply bad. Go outside this sub to see for yourself. Even the BMW subreddit hates it.

I was also hoping for better interior options than the G42, but aside from some very overpriced carbon seats, I much prefer the red leather offered in the M240i.

The G42 is very close in performance (and aggressive looks) to the F87. In Denver the xDrive version would honestly be the safer move that most would prefer. I've driven those roads to ski and would definitely want it, but each to their own.

If I had no financial constraints, I wouldn't be driving a BMW ... that makes no sense. You have to weigh the $10K price difference and 1/3 worse MPG otherwise we would all be comparing to Ferrari / Lambo's, etc.

> BMW subreddit hates this too.

Go figure. Say the new 7 Series has some cool bits, get downvoted.

I said E65 looked ugly, I got downvoted. I was like "since when E65 became pretty yo? It was fuck ugly back in 2001."

F01 > E65. I don't care.

[donm527]

It's cool there is a 2-series for everyones needs. And everyones needs are not the same as everyone elses as well as their budgets.

The 230 sounds like a fun car where you get a RWD car which is rare guys even like the Smoking Tire said can have fun with. Then the M240i they give you the B58 that want a 0-60 performer and not a racer but somewhere near a GT car where it is a better daily than an M2. Then you have M2 if you want a more track like car or a give off a more racer / F&F JDM vibe. Then I imagine you'll have a Comp/CS version for the real racers and more hard core enthusiast.

No need to bash the cars on the lower end of price and performance if it's enough for that owner. I'm personally ok with the M240i for want I it for. If I wanted more, I'd keep my older but still scary fun 3100 lbs Z06 over the M2.

Originally Posted by aerobod

On the other hand, the M240i F22 made the F22 M2 look quite expensive for what you got. For a daily driver the M240i had virtually the same acceleration as the OGM2 and suspension tuning (with the standard adjustable suspension) more suited to daily use. Our 2017 M240i was CAD$50,500 (USD$38,000) taxes-in on-the-road, about 2/3 the price of an M2 at the time and that was as an ordered car too, not one sitting on the lot. It made no sense to pay so much more for a car that didn't spend a lot of time at the track.

With the lack of manual in the G42 M240i and a closer price, the G87 M2 makes more sense now.

[BarbeRouge]

Great stance and presence out of the box, a winner for sure

[FrozenGT]

If you're in this form, and you're talking about saving gas and pinching pennies, don't even look at a BMW.

Why are you guys here —

[donm527]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

If you're in this form, and you're talking about saving gas and pinching pennies, don't even look at a BMW.

Why are you guys here —

Because we can't afford Ferrari's?? (I can't )

[TruthOne]

A lot of unnecessary M lite bashing

[ronin13013]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

A lot of unnecessary M lite bashing

[TruthOne]

Right, calling the M240 a fuckboy car and all the other douchebag comments isn't a direct comparison. If you want to be the stereotypical BMW guy be my guest but it screams insecure. It's an M2 not a GT3 RS get off your high horse.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

Right, calling the M240 a fuckboy car and all the other douchebag comments isn't a direct comparison. If you want to be the stereotypical BMW guy be my guest but it screams insecure. It's an M2 not a GT3 RS get off your high horse.

Definitely text your therapist

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

If you're in this form, and you're talking about saving gas and pinching pennies, don't even look at a BMW.

Why are you guys here —

Lel. It's a forUm first of all.

Average price of a new car is like $48K these days (nuts I know).

That's close to the starting price of a new M240i and will be well within the used range once the market returns to normal. There's a HUGE gap between a used $42K M240i and a Ferrari. BMW also sells 230i's too btw.

Generally speaking your car should be 1/3 your gross (assuming no unique situation / huge debts). So with a $125K salary (top 12% individual income) a used M-lite is fairly easily attainable.

[Moflow]

So, they don't have the G87 in here yet, but I came across this super fun tool for comparing car sizes!

Here's the new M240i compared to the old M2. If you hit the "swap" button it'll but the other car in front. The buttons at the bottom let you line up the front tires, rear tires or the front or rear bumpers. Good little time waster if anyone is interested.

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/com...-2021-coupe-m/

[Teutonic]

I will take the red one, thank you

[Alpha97]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

Lel. It's a forUm first of all.

Average price of a new car is like $48K these days (nuts I know).

That's close to the starting price of a new M240i and will be well within the used range once the market returns to normal. There's a HUGE gap between a used $42K M240i and a Ferrari. BMW also sells 230i's too btw.

Generally speaking your car should be 1/3 your gross (assuming no unique situation / huge debts). So with a $125K salary (top 12% individual income) a used M-lite is fairly easily attainable.

What is your point?
Nobody told you to leave, people are just wondering why you are here.
Are to trying to convince people in this m2 subforum to buy the m240i instead?
I personally don't care how much the m240i costs. The thought of buying one never even crossed my mind.
And no, I don't need the m2 to be an xdrive because I'll take my x5 or tacoma if I was to go skiing in Colorado. Most people shopping for an m2 do own more than 1 car.
Ferrari? what the hell? who cares about a ferrari?
ps thanks for the financial advice

[ThesaVeliona]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

Right, calling the M240 a fuckboy car and all the other douchebag comments isn't a direct comparison. If you want to be the stereotypical BMW guy be my guest but it screams insecure. It's an M2 not a GT3 RS get off your high horse.

And that's why I love this forum since May. We have EVERYTHANG to complain about.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Definitely text your therapist

Stop projecting, if anybody needs a therapist it's a person who's car makes them feel superior.

[bromudez]

Originally Posted by aerobod

On the other hand, the M240i F22 made the F22 M2 look quite expensive for what you got. For a daily driver the M240i had virtually the same acceleration as the OGM2 and suspension tuning (with the standard adjustable suspension) more suited to daily use. Our 2017 M240i was CAD$50,500 (USD$38,000) taxes-in on-the-road, about 2/3 the price of an M2 at the time and that was as an ordered car too, not one sitting on the lot. It made no sense to pay so much more for a car that didn't spend a lot of time at the track.

With the lack of manual in the G42 M240i and a closer price, the G87 M2 makes more sense now.

Fully loaded 240i would be just over $60K CAD so that's a good deal you got there

As a former 240i owner myself, I will say that it really isn't about the use case. I used to tell myself that spending the extra $ on the M2 wasn't worth it because I wasn't planning on tracking and therefore didn't NEED the extra power or handling. And I absolutely do NOT need these things but that isn't why I upgraded to the M2 anyway. I did it because I was tired of getting a sore neck from staring at them on the road.

It's a MUCH better looking and sounding car and that in itself is worth the delta.

But I do have to say the difference in looks is a lot less glaring with the G series cars. The F22 looked like the F87s little brother that needed to hit the gym. The G42 however is quite beefy itself and only slightly less wide than the G87.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by Alpha97

What is your point?
Nobody told you to leave, people are just wondering why you are here.
Are to trying to convince people in this m2 subforum to buy the m240i instead?
I personally don't care how much the m240i costs. The thought of buying one never even crossed my mind.
And no, I don't need the m2 to be an xdrive because I'll take my x5 or tacoma if I was to go skiing in Colorado. Most people shopping for an m2 do own more than 1 car.
Ferrari? what the hell? who cares about a ferrari?
ps thanks for the financial advice

I'm in this thread as it literally compares a M240i to a M2... see the title.

Not everyone has multiple cars though. Parking is $400/mo in my building for a reserved spot. The M240ix can handle all seasons fine, nobody I know that lives downtown has multiple cars (that's for the burbs or if you can afford a $1MM SFH).

Ferrari was brought up as someone mentioned with ZERO financial constraint they would get a M2, which made no sense. If I had unlimited money, I would not limite myself to a M2, I'd have a fleet a much higher performance rides.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by bromudez

But I do have to say the difference in looks is a lot less glaring with the G series cars. The F22 looked like the F87s little brother that needed to hit the gym. The G42 however is quite beefy itself and only slightly less wide than the G87.

I agree.

The F22 looked so tame and meh. Only a car enthusiast would even be able to pick it out of a crowd. The F87 looked much, much meaner.

Now the G42 looks mean and aggressive to begin with. The G87 just went over the top boxy to try and look meaner, but it simply missed the mark imo. I'm sure the performance is great, but I would not boast about the exterior to anyone...

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by aerobod

On the other hand, the M240i F22 made the F22 M2 look quite expensive for what you got. For a daily driver the M240i had virtually the same acceleration as the OGM2 and suspension tuning (with the standard adjustable suspension) more suited to daily use. .

F22 M2?

I must have missed that model. When was it produced???