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      09-03-2021, 10:16 AM   #67
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It looks even worse than the new M3/M4 did... omg...
But it'll probably drive great...

It's like having a girlfriend who you couldn't look at but you're with her because she can suck a golfball through a garden hose. Extremely well performing but butt ugly.
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I'm not sure that is the design evolution from this:
thats what people said about the 1 series to the 2 series.
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      09-03-2021, 10:44 AM   #70
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I too am wondering about the perf exhaust. hope it has the more traditional round tips on it.
when they do have the exhaust it would change the tips because those are in the bumper not connected to the muffler.
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      09-03-2021, 10:59 AM   #71
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It looks even worse than the new M3/M4 did... omg...
But it'll probably drive great...

It's like having a girlfriend who you couldn't look at but you're with her because she can suck a golfball through a garden hose. Extremely well performing but butt ugly.
New M3/4 still take the win in my opinion. After letting the new 2 series sit and bake in my mind for a few months, for me it comes down to the proportions being botched rather than the individual design elements being the main offender. The front triangles aren't great, but I still can't get on with the extended front section, the awkward rear arch (it looks so...old?), the distance between the tail lights, and just the overall flat creased and straight design language.

On the other hand, I have warmed up considerably to the headlights, and I like the hood a lot. And the CS style rear spoiler helps the rear proportions a ton, almost having me think that aftermarket exaggerated CSL type trunks are going to look very good on this generation. But maybe it's just the dark contrast doing it, not sure.

This car kind of looks like to me like the designers were inclined to do something different and didn't know how to incorporate it or proportion it correctly, rather than the M3/4 where to me it looks more like, "fuggit, go freaking nuts."
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Too many weird shapes and edges. Why can't they go back to a more simple design?
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      09-03-2021, 11:21 AM   #73
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      09-03-2021, 02:04 PM   #74
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This car kind of looks like to me like the designers were inclined to do something different and didn't know how to incorporate it or proportion it correctly, rather than the M3/4 where to me it looks more like, "fuggit, go freaking nuts."
I totally agree with the above statement...
It's like they started with the front, didn't know how to execute, got stressed and by acciden turned the back upside down..

Maybe it'll look better in person, many cars do. But having 44 years of experience of myself I don't think I'll ever think this car is good looking.
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      09-03-2021, 02:25 PM   #75
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I like it except the bumpers. I always think of BMW as having short overhangs, nothing unnecessary at either end, boxy and / or flat surfaces, maybe call it efficient? The German thing of - if it doesn't have a purpose we won't put it there.

This has plastic bits poking around for no apparent reason, making the car longer than it needs to be and inviting a lot of road rash from a steep driveway entry. It's not an 80's Pontiac at all but it's got useless plastic in useless areas. There's a chance it's better aerodynamically but that's a stretch.

Hoping the M2 revisions get back to the basics, or something like that. The M-Performance parts aren't accomplishing it.
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      09-03-2021, 03:42 PM   #76
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The G8X design language too is way over the top, but unfortunately, I don't see better price/performance in its segment. (for now)

"Stuck in the past" is the cop out of the lazy mind that has no rebuttal. BMW's pedigree is built on their past, not on the aesthetics of the Chinese market.
So which part of this car is to appeal to the Chinese market? Because I swore that was directed at the large grilles when the G8x came out...

BMW's pedigree is built on their performance...which it will continue to thrive and beat out its predecessors and competition.

"Stuck in the past" isn't a cop out. Have you seen Frank's Youtube channel? A majority of his videos are reassessments of 20, 30, 40+ year old car designs or analyzing his PAST designs. The man loves/lives the past. This is no disrespect to him as he's created a number of wonderful designs...but I couldn't care less what he thinks of a 2022 2 series BMW.
Lexus has already proved that there is no such thing as ugly or bad design when it comes to cars people who like the brand will buy anything. JMHO.

I like the M Performance bits - makes it look more aggressive.
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      09-03-2021, 06:38 PM   #77
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Huh.
A Bavarian Camaro.
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      09-03-2021, 08:22 PM   #78
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I like the car. However M240i is x-drive car and can not be spors car never. Same as M340i x-drive. Understeering next level, drives like Audi quattro.
No M340i x drive doesn’t understeer, it oversteers. It’s nothing like any Audi.
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No M340i x drive doesn't understeer, it oversteers. It's nothing like any Audi.
Understeers. Yes You can drift but car understeers a lot.
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      09-03-2021, 08:54 PM   #79
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I like the car. However M240i is x-drive car and can not be spors car never. Same as M340i x-drive. Understeering next level, drives like Audi quattro.
No M340i x drive doesn't understeer, it oversteers. It's nothing like any Audi.
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No M340i x drive doesn't understeer, it oversteers. It's nothing like any Audi.
Understeers. Yes You can drift but car understeers a lot.
Wrong.
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Too many weird shapes and edges. Why can't they go back to a more simple design?
They were getting some of them from the older M3.
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      09-04-2021, 01:44 AM   #81
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Looks like the same person who designed the accessories put the shoulder pads in her jacket and the pleats in her pants. BMW design now apparently targets the late 80's.
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It looks even worse than the new M3/M4 did... omg...
But it'll probably drive great...

It's like having a girlfriend who you couldn't look at but you're with her because she can suck a golfball through a garden hose. Extremely well performing but butt ugly.
Oh sure I got banned from the G8X forums for not towing the party lines and kissing BMWs butt about their new pig faced abomination, but they'll let this weird/sexist comment slide.
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      09-04-2021, 03:59 PM   #83
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Clearer quarter shot
What's with the Subaru tail lights?

Apologies to anyone who likes this… you're not wired right.

The M2/C/CS better fix this mess somehow.
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      09-04-2021, 04:44 PM   #84
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The previous model looks better. I don't get the point of BMW getting rid of its unique style cues, like the double headlights!? I thought the point of car designs were to stand out from the crowd? Apparently BMW feels otherwise... What a shame.
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      09-05-2021, 10:32 AM   #85
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I cannot believe how cheap and tacky this car looks. Shiny black plastic pieces glued to random areas for no functional purpose whatsoever. That rear end!

This is the design equivalent of cheap sneakers sold by Payless Shoe Source. I'm embarrassed for BMW.



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      09-05-2021, 11:37 AM   #86
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I cannot believe how cheap and tacky this car looks. Shiny black plastic pieces glued to random areas for no functional purpose whatsoever. That rear end!

This is the design equivalent of cheap sneakers sold by Payless Shoe Source. I'm embarrassed for BMW.



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Ok
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Backside looks like a BRZ. Not cool lol.
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