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      09-28-2024, 10:22 PM   #1
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Seems like I am buying 2024 X3MC from Seattle BMW. Now need to decide on ceramic and / or PPF.
If I am getting ceramic from BMW, they offer it for $1549, with 7 year warranty, including full exterior, wheels and interior. My SA told me that if leather on seats gets damaged, discolored and stuff - they will replace the seat.

The PPF they offer costs 2499 ("Package A") with 10 years warranty. It includes full front, windshield, door edges, door handles (ah, forgot to ask about rocker panels!). I need to call my local PPF shop to compare the prices, they did PPF on my wife's G05 2 years ago and it still looks good.

So, the question is - are these prices look plausible, especially the full ceramic treatment with 7 y. warranty? Is it a good deal?
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I'd want to "see it in writing," especially seat replacement guarantee. I wonder who is doing the work & what products are used? I'd assume they are farming it out to a local detail shop - I'd want to talk to them.
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According to my SA the ceramic is done by them, using "bmw product". Absolutely, will need to get warranty in writing.

The PPF they outsource to another shop, but the warranty is still coming from the dealer.

And speaking of PPF. If I do both - what is the order of operations? First PPF and then ceramic (on top of PPF? does it make sense?) or opposite (then, what is the point of ceramic under the PPF?)
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There are many threads re: PPF & or vs. ceramic here - take a look. PPF prevents rock chips, ceramic makes the car easy to clean.

The car's finish is perfected first, then PPF is applied and then a ceramic coat can be applied. Many modern PPFs have a ceramic coating on them.

I'm not aware of a "BMW" ceramic product, but I wouldn't be surprised as they have been selling rebranded Sonax products for decades. It's all down to the application. There are products for the exterior & interior that you can apply yourself.
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I asked about the product name, my SA doesn't know which product exactly is that other than it is a 'bmw product'.
The PPF is expel.
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      09-29-2024, 08:27 PM   #6
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According to my SA the ceramic is done by them, using "bmw product". Absolutely, will need to get warranty in writing.

The PPF they outsource to another shop, but the warranty is still coming from the dealer.

And speaking of PPF. If I do both - what is the order of operations? First PPF and then ceramic (on top of PPF? does it make sense?) or opposite (then, what is the point of ceramic under the PPF?)
This so called “BMW product” sounds like a BS story.

Do research on your local detailing shops and get pricing for well known brand name ceramic coatings and also PPF.

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Yeah, the dealer wasn't able to tell me what the [re]brand it is.

After doing some research and after talking to my local small PPF shop (where I did my X5 2 years ago) I decided to pass on both - ceramic and ppf - from the dealer. I'll do PPF in the local shop. As to ceramic - not even sure anymore (I can do it in the same shop for price 30% less than the dealer; however, I was warned by the guy from the shop that ceramic would need a lot of care and maintenance (thanks for honesty, I guess!)). Will see.
Also will do tinting with them, I guess.
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I will never in a million years trust any dealer for anything detailer related. 99% of the time it will be bs.
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Yeah, the dealer wasn't able to tell me what the [re]brand it is.
This is not surprising, they were either outsourcing the work or have their own in house detailing staff use some cheap product.

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After doing some research and after talking to my local small PPF shop (where I did my X5 2 years ago) I decided to pass on both - ceramic and ppf - from the dealer. I'll do PPF in the local shop. As to ceramic - not even sure anymore (I can do it in the same shop for price 30% less than the dealer; however, I was warned by the guy from the shop that ceramic would need a lot of care and maintenance (thanks for honesty, I guess!)). Will see.
Also will do tinting with them, I guess.
You may want to consider selecting the type of PPF being offered by several of the well known brands that already has a hydrophobic top-coat and not have to do ceramic coating.
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