[gemini.m3]

So with this being the first M car coming out of the Mexico plant, I was curious for those OCD like me if they have noticed any major or non major issues as it relates to the paint and consistency of the gaps across the car and the overall build.

I'm really liking the new design and think I might get it to pair with my M3 down the road, but one of the things that turned me off to this car initially was the whole made from Mexico mentality.

Yes, I'm sure they have properly trained people and had experts from Germany come in along with all the machines they use but I'm curious what people have found.

Thanks!

[FryCookOnVenus]

Originally Posted by gemini.m3

So with this being the first M car coming out of the Mexico plant, I was curious for those OCD like me if they have noticed any major or non major issues as it relates to the paint and consistency of the gaps across the car and the overall build.

I'm really liking the new design and think I might get it to pair with my M3 down the road, but one of the things that turned me off to this car initially was the whole made from Mexico mentality.

Yes, I'm sure they have properly trained people and had experts from Germany come in along with all the machines they use but I'm curious what people have found.

Thanks!

Did you have the same worries about BMWs made in Spartanburg, SC?

And what exactly do you mean by the "made from Mexico mentality?"

Hopefully I'm just misunderstanding you, but this comment reads like a textbook example of "implicit racial bias."

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by FryCookOnVenus

Hopefully I'm just misunderstanding you, but this comment reads like a textbook example of "implicit racial bias."

Why are cars built in Mexico in the first place? To save money. Period. Less government regulation, cheaper labor, etc. THAT is the reason to feel apprehensive, if there is one at all. Quit screaming "racist!" at the drop of a hat. So tiring.

[zero21]

Plant SLP is the most technically advanced plant. Every panel gap on my car is uniform - every single one. The doors shut like a tank. Everything feels and looks great fitment wise except the cheap plastic buttons BMW sources for switch gear.

You're fine. Buy the car.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by FryCookOnVenus

Did you have the same worries about BMWs made in Spartanburg, SC?

And what exactly do you mean by the "made from Mexico mentality?"

Hopefully I'm just misunderstanding you, but this comment reads like a textbook example of "implicit racial bias."

You’re watching too much MSNBC.

[zero21]

I think it was yesterday someone commented that their detailer/PPF guy said the paint quality finish for BSM was the best he's seen.

Take it with a grain of salt but it appears multiple aspects of the car's quality are first-rate.

[FryCookOnVenus]

Originally Posted by Carefree

You’re watching too much MSNBC.

Hahaha. Thank god, no. I don't watch cable "news." It's all toxic nonsense.

Stand by my point that referring disparagingly to a "made in Mexico mentality" reflects some shitty subconscious beliefs.

[Covfefe]

Originally Posted by zero21

I think it was yesterday someone commented that their detailer/PPF guy said the paint quality finish for BSM was the best he's seen.

Take it with a grain of salt but it appears multiple aspects of the car's quality are first-rate.

I wouldn't be surprised. Auto paint is highly regulated in places like California. Mexican laws could allow a better paint job than a more developed country's.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by FryCookOnVenus

Hahaha. Thank god, no. I don't watch cable "news." It's all toxic nonsense.

Stand by my point that referring disparagingly to a "made in Mexico mentality" reflects some shitty subconscious beliefs.

I bet the ass end of my Mexican made G87 isn't going to fall off like some German made M cars.

[M Division]

My G42 quality is on par with my wife's X6 and every M4 Ive owned or M3 Ive seen.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by FryCookOnVenus

Stand by my point that referring disparagingly to a "made in Mexico mentality" reflects some shitty subconscious beliefs.

You have no idea what anyone’s “subconscious beliefs” are.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by M Division

My G42 quality is on par with my wife's X6 and every M4 Ive owned or M3 Ive seen.

Ditto with my '23 G42 M240.

[Bumpinjeep]

As far as I can see, the panel gaps are minimal and uniform. The paint is excellent, on par with every other M Car I've had. As a matter of fact, the car has very little paint defects.
Since this is the most high tech factory BMW has, the quality of the car is top notch. If given the choice, this is the factory you want your car to come out of.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by KevinC

Why are cars built in Mexico in the first place? To save money. Period. Less government regulation, cheaper labor, etc. THAT is the reason to feel apprehensive, if there is one at all. Quit screaming "racist!" at the drop of a hat. So tiring.

I didn’t read what he actually said as screaming “racist” (your quotes, not his). He did say that what OP shared, in fact admitted, was implicit racial bias. Not the same thing, and I think you reflexively coming
back at him accusing him of calling someone racist is an actual problem.

Hope this doesn’t derail but it’s actually really important.

“What is Implicit Racial Bias
It is important to distinguish implicit racial bias from racism or discrimination. Implicit biases are associations made by individuals in the uncon- scious state of mind. This means that the individ- ual is likely not aware of the biased association.
Implicit racial bias can cause individuals to un- knowingly act in discriminatory ways. This does not mean that the individual is overtly racist, but rather that their perceptions have been shaped by experiences and these perceptions potentially result in biased thoughts or actions.
No one is immune from having unconscious thoughts and associations, but becoming aware of implicit racial bias creates an avenue for ad- dressing the issue.”

-Bailey Maryfield, M.S.
Justice Research and Statistics Association

Ps. You also left off how close Mexico is to BMWs 3rd largest market, the USA and Trade Agreements among other major reasons.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by gemini.m3

So with this being the first M car coming out of the Mexico plant, I was curious for those OCD like me if they have noticed any major or non major issues as it relates to the paint and consistency of the gaps across the car and the overall build.

I'm really liking the new design and think I might get it to pair with my M3 down the road, but one of the things that turned me off to this car initially was the whole made from Mexico mentality.

Yes, I'm sure they have properly trained people and had experts from Germany come in along with all the machines they use but I'm curious what people have found.

Thanks!

There have been zero reports of decreased quality from the MX plant. They've been making M340i for multiple years now, and the M240i for over year. Any claims saying the build quality has decreased are non-sensical.

[TomatoCoupe]

scoped a m240 in a dealer and was incredibly impressed with the quality, felt better put together than the M8 i sat in after...

Looking forward to seeing how the M2 is

[TR930]

Mexican robots as good as German ones.

[Carefree]

I love a good bean and cheese burrito with a side of guacamole.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by KevinC

Why are cars built in Mexico in the first place? To save money. Period. Less government regulation, cheaper labor, etc. THAT is the reason to feel apprehensive, if there is one at all. Quit screaming "racist!" at the drop of a hat. So tiring.

The reason cars are primarily built in Mexico is a reduction in tariffs. You might have heard of something called NAFTA. It's significantly cheaper to move parts into the US from Mexico than it is to move them from Germany. Same reason why the X series cars are made in the US now - and are the largest BMW export in the world - FROM AMERICA. Do you also have concerns that the X series are worse because American car manufacturing has a poor record of reliability?

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

The reason cars are primarily built in Mexico is a reduction in tariffs. You might have heard of something called NAFTA. It's significantly cheaper to move parts into the US from Mexico than it is to move them from Germany. Same reason why the X series cars are made in the US now - and are the largest BMW export in the world - FROM AMERICA. Do you also have concerns that the X series are worse because American car manufacturing has a poor record of reliability?

Amen and don’t pass the ammunition.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by TR930

Mexican robots as good as German ones.

Seriously. When I toured the BMW factory in Munich in 2019, 80% of the lines were already fully automated. Humans didn't touch the car until the very end - when quality control was done on the paint, panel fitment, and the interior was being finished. I can only assume the factory in Mexico is radically more modernized.

[gemini.m3]

I'm latin, so if I'm being racist that would make no sense. I should have better clarified my statement.

There were a number of people on the boards that felt the car lost some appeal because it wasn't made in the motherland, and is in fact the first 'M' car made in Mexico, no?

It has nothing to do with Mexicans, lol. It's like my ultimate driving machine was engineered and built in germany, not off sourced for reasons stated in this thread (cheaper labor, etc)

I'm glad to hear the feedback has been positive!