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      11-21-2017, 04:04 PM   #1
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Hey guys,

So several weeks ago, I replaced a bank of injectors with index 12 injectors and coded it with the proper values due to misfires. The injectors that we’re in there we’re index 6s.

After coding it, and checking for codes to see if the misfires went away (which they did) a new code popped up, 30BE. I’m sure I coded it properly, and ignored the issue.

Anyway, I noticed that my fuel consumption got dramatically worse, so I concluded that maybe it was due to the injectors. I decided to double check the coding and noticed that the new injectors that I put in had a much higher energy calibration number. The new injectors were in the 60-70 range while the old injectors were in the 50-60 range.

Is anyone’s injector 12 values that high?
Will replacing all the older injectors resolve my problem?
Has anyone come across this issue that can provide any insight?

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Did you reset all the adaptations?
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      11-29-2017, 10:58 PM   #3
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All six of mine are in the 56-59 range. The software will round the calibration number slightly. Check your calibration numbers in INPA to make sure everything is cool.
Are the injectors all brand new?
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      11-30-2017, 12:00 AM   #4
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Did you reset all the adaptations?
Hey, yeah I did reset adaptations. I called my seller and they're sending me new injectors with lower flow rates
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Where are you getting your injectors?
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Where are you getting your injectors?
I got it on eBay. It's remanufactured and the guy I bought it from is from USA.
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I got it on eBay. It's remanufactured and the guy I bought it from is from USA.
That is your problem. These injectors CAN'T be remanufactured. Doesn't metter where you bought them from or where the guy is from.
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I got it on eBay. It's remanufactured and the guy I bought it from is from USA.
I bought those too from this guy in New York. He probably just buys them bulk from China.
Those injectors are total crap and have wrong numbers on them which you cannot enter into INPA.
One of the six injectors died completely after 20min.

I sent them back right way. It's absolute junk. Stop buying second hand injectors. This has been advised in pretty much every topic before this one.
I told the guys that these are injectors are not compatible with N54 engine but he just ignored it and keeps selling them like they are. The police should be called really as it a 100% fraud.

No more input will be given in this thread.
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That is your problem. These injectors CAN'T be remanufactured. Doesn't metter where you bought them from or where the guy is from.

Seems that people simply do not read any of the hundreds of injector threads on here where cases like these are discussed in detail.

Yet they still go and buy "remanufactured" crap from ebay.

People STOP BUYING REMANUFACTURED INJECTORS!!
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I got it on eBay. It's remanufactured and the guy I bought it from is from USA.
I got it on fleeBay. It's refu*ked-up and the guy I got ripped of from is from USA.

Here I fixed it for you
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I got it on eBay. It's remanufactured and the guy I bought it from is from USA.
Should have mentioned that to begin with.

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I noticed that my fuel consumption got dramatically worse, so I concluded that maybe it was due to the injectors.
Better dump your oil out ASAP.
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I got it on eBay. It's remanufactured and the guy I bought it from is from USA.
I bought those too from this guy in New York. He probably just buys them bulk from China.
Those injectors are total crap and have wrong numbers on them which you cannot enter into INPA.
One of the six injectors died completely after 20min.

I sent them back right way. It's absolute junk. Stop buying second hand injectors. This has been advised in pretty much every topic before this one.
I told the guys that these are injectors are not compatible with N54 engine but he just ignored it and keeps selling them like they are. The police should be called really as it a 100% fraud.

No more input will be given in this thread.
Why can't injectors be remanufactured?
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That is your problem. These injectors CAN'T be remanufactured. Doesn't metter where you bought them from or where the guy is from.

Seems that people simply do not read any of the hundreds of injector threads on here where cases like these are discussed in detail.

Yet they still go and buy "remanufactured" crap from ebay.

People STOP BUYING REMANUFACTURED INJECTORS!!
Can you point me to those cases where people have bought eBay injectors and failed? So far, I've only read about people advising not to buy them. But haven't found a lot of cases where eBay injectors failed on them.
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Can you point me to those cases where people have bought eBay injectors and failed? So far, I've only read about people advising not to buy them. But haven't found a lot of cases where eBay injectors failed on them.
That's like asking for instances of when someone bought a car that was in a flood and trying to calculate the probability of potential future failure. No one needs that level of detail to realize why this is a bad idea.

Can you point me to those cases where sellers have actually described their process of whats involved in refurbishing these injectors?

Buying a "reman" is equivalent to going to a junkyard and diving into a container full of questionable injectors and picking 6 at random; at least then you can visually inspect what you're buying. Why peeps have yet to comprehend this is beyond me.
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Can you point me to those cases where people have bought eBay injectors and failed? So far, I've only read about people advising not to buy them. But haven't found a lot of cases where eBay injectors failed on them.
Probably because those posters were too embarrassed they bought ebay junk and deleted the threads or posts. Why even ask this question? Ebay is known as Fleabay for good reason, it's where crappy used things go to die after being passed off as new. Buy from a reputable source and simply trust that reliable electro-mechanical parts are not to be found on ebay.
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Probably because those posters were too embarrassed they bought ebay junk and deleted the threads or posts. Why even ask this question? Ebay is known as Fleabay for good reason, it's where crappy used things go to die after being passed off as new. Buy from a reputable source and simply trust that reliable electro-mechanical parts are not to be found on ebay.
No need to hate on ebay. The source of the parts is not the issue...the problem is that no one has shown evidence of an injector having the ability to be "remaned" to begin with; among other fundamental issues regarding that process in general.

In this case "reman" just means "questionable used injector packaged into a box for resale." That's the overlying issue here.
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Can you point me to those cases where people have bought eBay injectors and failed? So far, I've only read about people advising not to buy them. But haven't found a lot of cases where eBay injectors failed on them.
That's like asking for instances of when someone bought a car that was in a flood and trying to calculate the probability of potential future failure. No one needs that level of detail to realize why this is a bad idea.

Can you point me to those cases where sellers have actually described their process of whats involved in refurbishing these injectors?

Buying a "reman" is equivalent to going to a junkyard and diving into a container full of questionable injectors and picking 6 at random; at least then you can visually inspect what you're buying. Why peeps have yet to comprehend this is beyond me.
With flood cars, you're concerned with how much money you'd potentially have to put into it for the potential failures it could have.

With the injectors I bought I don't have to deal with that. If the injectors fail, I can get a replacement from warranty.

Also, I may not able to show how the injectors were remanufactured, but I can make my decision based on testimonials of the people that bought those injectors.
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what kind of warranty you got? Did the injectors came with new seals and caps or no caps?
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With flood cars, you're concerned with how much money you'd potentially have to put into it for the potential failures it could have.

With the injectors I bought I don't have to deal with that. If the injectors fail, I can get a replacement from warranty.

Also, I may not able to show how the injectors were remanufactured, but I can make my decision based on testimonials of the people that bought those injectors.
So much confidence...so little knowledge.

Where are you reading all these glowing reviews?

Also, will the warranty pay for a new motor after you spin a bearing? Very high probability of that when you start noticing gas mileage drastically diminish due to injector(s) leaking/pissing high amounts of fuel. By the time you notice, it's usually too late.

I'm assuming you're also properly removing/inserting/compressing/etc. new o-rings on these reman injectors too before install right? Or will your warranty pay for a new head when the remaned unit oblongs the hole?

Yet another thread where someone comes in seeking basic assistance, then later fancies themselves an expert.
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If you search around, you will see that remanufuctured / refurbished N54 injectors basically do not exist. These fail so often, that people would of figured out the cheapest method by now, but unfortunately there is no way around it besides buying new and replacing. That is why people recommend getting it from FCP euro as they have lifetime warranty on the parts they sell (as what are the chances you will keep your car that long).

Going cheap might save you money right now, and you can get them used, and "remanufactured", but I guess you will be ok replacing it fairly often and later dealing with other issues they cause?

This reminds me of eBay "xenon" like light bulbs I had for my Maxima a while back, yes they had life time warranty, but they failed so often, that I got sick of replacing it and went with stock.
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No need to hate on ebay. The source of the parts is not the issue...the problem is that no one has shown evidence of an injector having the ability to be "remaned" to begin with; among other fundamental issues regarding that process in general.

In this case "reman" just means "questionable used injector packaged into a box for resale." That's the overlying issue here.
No hate on ebay from me, but damn sure is a lot of caution. I use it all the time to both buy and sell goods, but I buy with the understanding that what I'm buying won't be anything mechanically or electrically complicated, expensive (or deeply discounted from normal), or something I need to rely on for my health and safety.

Ooh a used cardiac defibrillator? Sold!

I do SMH at people who don't understand that ebay is often nowhere close to what can be called a reliable place to find car parts though. Why risk it? Sure the price is likely cheaper, but that's merely the cheese in the trap.
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Should have mentioned that to begin with.

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I noticed that my fuel consumption got dramatically worse, so I concluded that maybe it was due to the injectors.
Better dump your oil out ASAP.
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