[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Caerus

Ditto

In a what-if-scenario, a center should inquire with the allocation number one holder to see if they want to forgo the unavailable option, in this case ZJJ. If so, they would proceed with the build sans the unavailable option. In the event that they decide to wait for the option to become available then that allocation would move to the next person in line. Note, a well run center should never make the assumption on a deposit holder’s part.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by mynameisnick4

This what I am wondering. For example, if you are #2 at a dealership that only initially gets 1 allocation but #1 wants the carbon pack. Does #1 get to sit on that initial allocation until that option is available or does that allocation then go to #2? Or is all of that at the discretion of the dealership?

The dealership is going to begin moving metal asap. If customer #1 wants to wait for the Carbon Pack they can, but the entire order queue isn't going to also wait for customer #1 to get for their desired spec filled. That is crazy!

[mynameisnick4]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

The dealership is going to begin moving metal asap. If customer #1 wants to wait for the Carbon Pack they can, but the entire order queue isn't going to also wait for customer #1 to get for their desired spec filled. That is crazy!

That's what I would assume as it makes the most sense but we are living in a time where a lot of things that do not make sense becoming commonplace lol

[Caerus]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

In a what-if-scenario, a center should inquire with the allocation number one holder to see if they want to forgo the unavailable option, in this case ZJJ. If so, they would proceed with the build sans the unavailable option. In the event that they decide to wait for the option to become available then that allocation would move to the next person in line. Note, a well run center should never make the assumption on a deposit holder’s part.

Thanks for the explanation. That is what I figured would happen. No dealer will pass up an allocation for in demand car. This system should work out for high volume dealers with more allocations. But what would happen if the dealer only gets one or two per year? Those dealers probably won't get early allocations at first until the bigger dealers pipe line subsides. Just my take and please clarify. Thanks.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by Caerus

Thanks for the explanation. That is what I figured would happen. No dealer will pass up an allocation for in demand car. This system should work out for high volume dealers with more allocations. But what would happen if the dealer only gets one or two per year? Those dealers probably won't get early allocations at first until the bigger dealers pipe line subsides. Just my take and please clarify. Thanks.

Same. When the allocation becomes available, they will fill it with your order or the next persons. If they only get 2 allocations in the year, and you know you want a package that is not available currently, you should expect to wait until they get an allocation after the SOP.

[DO444]

Still can’t figure out why anyone would buy this versus an m4.

Fully loaded m2 versus m4?
Idk what’s the appeal here.

[CodeSlinger]

Originally Posted by DO444

Still can’t figure out why anyone would buy this versus an m4.

Fully loaded m2 versus m4?
Idk what’s the appeal here.

If you are the kind of person to fully load out your cars you won't be happy with a base m4. If you are fine without carbon buckets you won't be getting them in the m2 either.

So when specced to feature parity you are saving ~$10k for a car with the same engine (slightly lower power), same suspension, same transmission and a smaller wheelbase.

Hope that helps

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by DO444

Still can't figure out why anyone would buy this versus an m4.

Fully loaded m2 versus m4?
Idk what's the appeal here.

Probably the same reason I don't have a twin-turbo, six-speed 911 Porsche instead; that pesky thing called money always gets in the way..

When I option up a comparable M2 to M4, it's about a $20,000 difference. That's about another $400 in someone's monthly payment. Not a insignificant amount to sneeze at.

So basically, the M2 is the poor man's M4.

This article from 2016 when the OG M2 was unveiled might add some perspective to the M2 place in BMW's hierarchy:

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[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by DO444

Still can’t figure out why anyone would buy this versus an m4.

Fully loaded m2 versus m4?
Idk what’s the appeal here.

Because the M4 is a boat. The M4 was always my favorite M car but it's gotten too big now and I'm not a fan of the beaver grill

[86zccrx]

I'm sure it's designed that way, but a base M3 and base M2 with no options are10k difference in price. If I spec out an M3 with the same options as the M2 that I would get(larger wheels, CF Roof, HUD, lighting package) the difference is still about 8-9k. Obviously, you can go way above that in the M3 since there are options the M2 doesn't offer, but if you are comparing the same specs between the 2 it's still a fairly large amount of money.
I strongly doubt the performance and driving dynamics will be much different between the 2 since they are the same underneath and basically the same weight so from what I can tell, it comes down to styling preference(especially with more color options for the interior/exterior) and practicality.

[fanofbmwe46]

I wonder if the LCI M2 will have adaptive lights standard and laser lights as optional.

Does anyone know if the current standard G80/82 lights are adaptive or only the laser lights?

[86zccrx]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

I wonder if the LCI M2 will have adaptive lights standard and laser lights as optional.

Does anyone know if the current standard G80/82 lights are adaptive or only the laser lights?

The standard G80/82 lights are adaptive. I think I had read somewhere BMW is moving away from laser lights, so if that's true then I would doubt it would be added, but I could be mistaken.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by 86zccrx

The standard G80/82 lights are adaptive. I think I had read somewhere BMW is moving away from laser lights, so if that's true then I would doubt it would be added, but I could be mistaken.

It's true, BMWs is phasing out their top-tier laser light option and moving towards "matrix" LEDs technology, which uses individually controllable LED elements with reflectors to produce an extremely precise and highly variable light distribution of illumination.

Regardless, the US version is going to be the most basic in functions because the lighting law cripples the advanced selective-dimming feature, the most exciting and safety-enhancing capability, even under the most recent revision.

Here is sneak preview of what "matrix" lights can accomplish:

https://youtube.com/shorts/BSkSc3zEx7s?feature=share

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

In a what-if-scenario, a center should inquire with the allocation number one holder to see if they want to forgo the unavailable option, in this case ZJJ. If so, they would proceed with the build sans the unavailable option. In the event that they decide to wait for the option to become available then that allocation would move to the next person in line. Note, a well run center should never make the assumption on a deposit holder's part.

I can't figure one thing, even though I would never pay the up-charge..

I know the carbon fiber roof is itemized as a option for $2,600. But as far as the carbon fiber seats go, is there à la carte option like on the M4 for $4,200 or is it only available with a higher tier, inclusive M package or whatever it's called?

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I can't figure one thing, even though I would never pay the up-charge..

I know the carbon fiber roof is itemized as a option for $2,600. But as far as the carbon fiber seats go, is there à la carte option like on the M4 for $4,200 or is it only available with a higher tier, inclusive M package or whatever it's called?

No, CF buckets are not available as a standalone option. They are only available via the carbon package at $9900 USD.

Note, the car must be a Priority 1 unit to order the carbon package. Priority 1 is a Customer Sold unit.

[m20e3087]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

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No, CF buckets are not available as a standalone option. They are only available via the carbon package at $9900 USD.

Note, the car must be a Priority 1 unit to order the carbon package. Priority 1 is a Customer Sold unit.

If we can spec them with cup 2s, it's not a terrible deal.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

:

No, CF buckets are not available as a standalone option. They are only available via the carbon package at $9900 USD.

Note, the car must be a Priority 1 unit to order the carbon package. Priority 1 is a Customer Sold unit.

Oh man, so the same as like in Canada, where all the goodies are in an all or nothing package..

The naive side of me likes to think that this package structure wasn't about greed but more so to move the base M2 in an unofficially level up, sort of like a Competition-Lite or something.

What I mean is, if a base model doesn't have the privilege of these extras and vehicles exclusively with the Carbon Package are differentiated by a lite roof, seats, spoilers, higher speed governor, ect. All this stuff cumulatively kind of puts the M2 with such in a derivative model by itself. Sort of a Ship of Theseus thought experiment.. 🧐

Or maybe I'm just overthinking it and BMW shareholders literally just like to swim in a mattress full of cash..

Either one these assumptions are equally plausible. 😎

[M3WC]

Carbon buckets are no go anyways, since the rest of the interior is in non-matching vernasca leather. Even the rear seats.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Carbon buckets are no go anyways, since the rest of the interior is in non-matching vernasca leather. Even the rear seats.

And then there is this above.

[m20e3087]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Carbon buckets are no go anyways, since the rest of the interior is in non-matching vernasca leather. Even the rear seats.

How's this possible? Two different types of leather if we choose Marino bucket.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

How's this possible? Two different types of leather if we choose Marino bucket.

Only carbon buckets will have Merino leather. Look at pics, even center armrest is still the grainy varnasca leather. Recent video showed rear seats will also not be in Merino leather. Really devalues the carbon buckets in my opinion and the entire Carbon Pack with it.

[atl_1M]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Only carbon buckets will have Merino leather. Look at pics, even center armrest is still the grainy varnasca leather. Recent video showed rear seats will also not be in Merino leather. Really devalues the carbon buckets in my opinion and the entire Carbon Pack with it.

Shady for BMW to call it full merino when ordering buckets. Here we thought we might get leather dash and door cards, when in fact you don't even get merino armrest or rear seats.