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      06-28-2012, 11:53 AM   #1
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Instrument cluster swap

Can I swap my interment cluster with another in better condition? Do I need any coding or anything? Will the mileage be different, or is that stored somewhere else?
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      06-29-2012, 09:10 PM   #2
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Anyone know?
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      06-29-2012, 09:15 PM   #3
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Try contacting this guy-Patrys@BimmerTech. He is a member here- he knows his stuff about coding clusters.
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      06-29-2012, 09:36 PM   #4
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Try contacting this guy-Patrys@BimmerTech. He is a member here- he knows his stuff about coding clusters.
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Thanks for all the help you have given me!
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      07-02-2012, 06:06 PM   #5
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I learned the hard way when i bought a cluster and the speedometer didnt work. turned out its more complicated than coding. The simple answer is NO it wont work
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      07-02-2012, 10:12 PM   #6
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I learned the hard way when i bought a cluster and the speedometer didnt work. turned out its more complicated than coding. The simple answer is NO it wont work
Patrys said it would work. Hmmm...I am just going to have to try it. Will report back.
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      07-27-2012, 02:23 AM   #7
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Looks like it works. I bought a new cluster, unplugged my old one, and plugged the new one in. Everything works perfectly.
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      07-28-2012, 09:10 AM   #8
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If this is a brand new cluster from BMW (not used in other car before) then it just needs coding after installation.
For a used cluster there is much more work needed and simple coding will not be enough.

We can help you with new and used clusters
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      07-28-2012, 01:52 PM   #9
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If this is a brand new cluster from BMW (not used in other car before) then it just needs coding after installation.
For a used cluster there is much more work needed and simple coding will not be enough.

We can help you with new and used clusters
Not sure if you read my post, but your statement about the used cluster is wrong. I bought a used one, plugged it in, and it works perfectly.

You were the one that told me it would be ok! Lol! Maybe you mean the m3 cluster?
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      08-12-2012, 02:21 AM   #10
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Well, Looks like it only seems to work perfectly. It will need coding to re-write the vin on it. All the gauges work, the mileage works, everything works, except for the service intervals, and it will not communicate with my idrive.
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      10-09-2012, 04:41 PM   #11
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Hi guys, new to the bmw e90 commuinity, even though I had my car over 3 years, basically I bought new bmw needles from bimmian.com from the USA, try to install them on my e90 instrument cluster but the needles were too tight and snapped the needle hole, I only removed the speedometer needle, mpg and fuel gauge but not the rev meter.

Now the speedometer needle doesn't work after I replaced the old needles, and fuel gauge and mpg gauge maybe out of sync, I spoke to a close mate of mine who is a auto electrician by trade, said h possibly can replace the speedo motor as it maybe bust due to the pressures place on the needle. The other option is I found exact e90 closed with same serial code as mine on eBay bar 1 no.,my mate said he has maybe able to remove the chip of my module and the used cluster and transfer vin no. From mine and all the rest of the data including mileage, but only problem he don't know if my model will be compatible to do this as he has done it other cars up to the age off 2008 but not bmw e90.

Is this possible?

Any replays will help

By the way my car is bmw e90 320d se

And don't risk buying those needles from bimmian - total waste of time and took a big risk,I don't want to end up buying new clusters which I have been quoted £600 by bmw.
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      10-09-2012, 04:44 PM   #12
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Hi guys, new to the bmw e90 commuinity, even though I had my car over 3 years, basically I bought new bmw needles from bimmian.com from the USA, try to install them on my e90 instrument cluster but the needles were too tight and snapped the needle hole, I only removed the speedometer needle, mpg and fuel gauge but not the rev meter.

Now the speedometer needle doesn't work after I replaced the old needles, and fuel gauge and mpg gauge maybe out of sync, I spoke to a close mate of mine who is a auto electrician by trade, said h possibly can replace the speedo motor as it maybe bust due to the pressures place on the needle. The other option is I found exact e90 closed with same serial code as mine on eBay bar 1 no.,my mate said he has maybe able to remove the chip of my module and the used cluster and transfer vin no. From mine and all the rest of the data including mileage, but only problem he don't know if my model will be compatible to do this as he has done it other cars up to the age off 2008 but not bmw e90.

Is this possible?

Any replays will help

By the way my car is bmw e90 320d se

And don't risk buying those needles from bimmian - total waste of time and took a big risk,I don't want to end up buying new clusters which I have been quoted £600 by bmw.

Sorry for the bad English stupid iPad making up own words.....
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      10-09-2012, 04:58 PM   #13
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You can repair the motors which move the needles.
It is as simple as it is.
Ask your electrician friend to sort it out.
Dont' waste your money on other speedometers.
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This guys, www.moddedinstruments.com can code or modify any new or used cluster. they prepare cluster for sports cars and they can prepare any cluster as you need for your car.
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      10-22-2012, 12:11 PM   #15
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you can swap clusters but to code them you will have to modify the VIN of the new cluster to match car's VIN.
this can not be done by coding/programing. you will have to open the cluster, find a certain EEPROM, de-solder it, read its content with an EEPROM reader, modify the VIN and mileage, solder it back to PCB, install the cluster in car, and now you will be able to code it based on your car's options (VO).

Its better to swap clusters from same car type, gasoline to gasoline and diesel to diesel to avoid further complications.
hi guys

just an update, bought sme same model diesel clusters, had freind located the eprom chip and read the chip on mine and swapped the info to new used cluster, all is well but now there is a digital line missing very faintly and the rpm and mpg dial is not pressed down correctly on cluster and mpg is not reaching the top line on the mpg guage, i guess it needs allignin, damn wish i never touched the dials

by the way i got part refund from bimmian for the needles and also found out they were cheap chinese replica needles which is why the they wouldnt fit correctly, wot a cock up....so fed up
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If this is a brand new cluster from BMW (not used in other car before) then it just needs coding after installation.
For a used cluster there is much more work needed and simple coding will not be enough.

We can help you with new and used clusters
Can a M cluster be fitted into a 328? I ask since my cluster has the boring mpg gauge instead of the oil temp.
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There is no oil temp sensor in a 328

there is no oil temp sensor in a 328.
So there is nothing to send data to the gauge.
No pressure senor either.
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      02-26-2013, 09:15 AM   #18
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there is no oil temp sensor in a 328.
So there is nothing to send data to the gauge.
No pressure senor either.
Not sure I agree with that since the oil temp is measured in the Kombi (by the computer). My guess is (and I could be wrong) that this can be activated through coding. Check this thread, a guy placed a 335 cluster on a 330 and claimed that the oil temp gauge worked.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501509
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      02-26-2013, 09:22 AM   #19
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Can a M cluster be fitted into a 328? I ask since my cluster has the boring mpg gauge instead of the oil temp.
Yes you can. I did 3 328's already and numerous 335's. Here's my own car



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Thanks Onebadmofo. I'll check around to see of I can get a used one. Anyone know what's the part number for a new M cluster?

I've read that the EEPROM chip is read only on M clusters. Does this mean that a new chip needs to be soldered and data populated if a used cluster is retrofitted?
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[QUOTE=onebadmofo;13545008]Yes you can. I did 3 328's already and numerous 335's. Here's my own car

So, I noticed from your second video that the rpm redline is right were its supposed to be for a 328/335. Does it stay adjusted to that rpm, or does it go down to 9k like it does with the M3?
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      02-26-2013, 01:37 PM   #22
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Yes you can. I did 3 328's already and numerous 335's. Here's my own car

So, I noticed from your second video that the rpm redline is right were its supposed to be for a 328/335. Does it stay adjusted to that rpm, or does it go down to 9k like it does with the M3?
It stays there. When cold it's at ~4500 and then as the car warms up gradually moves to 7000.
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