[ronin13013]

whoops.

Originally Posted by ronin13013

Even with roof and buckets It wont be 80k.

[E63M6_G42M240i]

Originally Posted by ronin13013

Even with roof and buckets It wont be 80k.

Ok let's say $77k. Can you buy a 22' slightly used m4 non comp for that? The answer is yes. Now let's look 3 years from that point. Which will be worth more and which is the higher spec? Ok you don't get idrive8 with a 22'. Doesn't bother me one bit.

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by E63M6_G42M240i

Ok let's say $77k. Can you buy a 22' slightly used m4 non comp for that? The answer is yes. Now let's look 3 years from that point. Which will be worth more and which is the higher spec? Ok you don't get idrive8 with a 22'. Doesn't bother me one bit.

Lucky you

My dealer just sold a used 2022 base m3 6mt for 130k plus tax =150k.

New is only 110k but it's a 1 year wait right now

[SW19]

Originally Posted by stefan

Holy hell and that is 6MT. This proves a point I made in the reveal thread. These cars are going to have serious sticker shock due to post-COVID supply chain pricing realities. My 2021 M2 that I plucked off the lot before COVID insanity cost me a Civic Si less than the G87. I had a deposit down but pulled it after seeing the reveal. Just not for me, at least not yet. At $100K I'm honestly considering an X3M just for the kids and what not.
I *believe* it also includes a CF strut brace that used to be included on S55 models

What? Yes they are. By that metric the F87 is not mass production either. These are mass production cars. They will build as many as people order. My issue is more that you either get a seriously unequipped M2 at a reasonable price or nicely equipped one for a price comparable to more upscale cars. BTW I was still expecting it to be expensive. Demand is high, and stuff costs more now.


Completely agree here, and it's 99% of what you need. You can equip a ton of M bits on those cars. This is 100% the strategy and why we see astronomical G87 pricing.

EDIT; can someone re-up the guide?

Not sure if i should be posting it again on this thread but hear it is.

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by M3WC

People actually buy M drivers pack? What a waste of money.

Well it gives you 300kph speed limit which I will definitely hit once in a while. I was just reiterating what's included in the $13K CAD Carbon Package.

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

Well it gives you 300kph speed limit which I will definitely hit once in a while. I was just reiterating what's included in the $13K CAD Carbon Package.

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[pizza240]

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

you know what won't make people happy?

13,000 for the carbon pack

850 for colours (no cost in EU)

750 for the bicolour wheels (no cost in EU)

750 for to paint the brakes red (no cost in EU)

400 for M seat belts (no cost in EU)

300 for garage door opener (no cost in EU)

350 for wireless charging (no cost in EU)

Most of this doesn't seem true based on the configurators I used...

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by SW19

Here it is.The price is $3100.Looks like Denver deleted the info.

ZPP Premium Package
322 Comfort Access
552 Adaptive LED Headlights
5DM Parking Assistant
688 Harman/Kardon Surround Sound System 6U3 Digital Cockpit Professional
ZHU Head-Up Display

Thanks. Well if you want a rare car, order it without the premium pkg…

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

Thanks. Well if you want a rare car, order it without the premium pkg…

Need HUD shift lights for race car

[pizza240]

My build is about $95,300 before tax, or $69,300 USD.

I expected it to be $90K with the options I chose (nearly loaded).

Only options I didn't select were wireless charging and black exterior contents (I prefer the stainless exhaust).

I considered another build without the Carbon pack while adding carbon roof, interior & M Driver's pack at about $88,100 CAD or $64,100 USD pre-tax.

So yes, that's a lot of money for the carbon seats...

Fellow Canadians, don't forget how much the gov't has hurt this country and how weak the dollar is. $96K is yesterday's $85K...
Might seem like exaggeration but I don't think so.

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

Need HUD shift lights for race car

Comfort access alone makes the package a must. In typical BMW fashion next year’s packages should be better.

But seriously, what other options are there in this world for a manual fun car. P cars are way more expensive.

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

Comfort access alone makes the package a must. In typical BMW fashion next year’s packages should be better.

But seriously, what other options are there in this world for a manual fun car. P cars are way more expensive.

Facts the premium package is basically mandatory

[SW19]

Originally Posted by pizza240

My build is about $95,300 before tax, or $69,300 USD.

I expected it to be $90K with the options I chose (nearly loaded).

Only options I didn't select were wireless charging and black exterior contents (I prefer the stainless exhaust).

I considered another build without the Carbon pack while adding carbon roof, interior & M Driver's pack at about $88,100 CAD or $64,100 USD pre-tax.

So yes, that's a lot of money for the carbon seats...

Fellow Canadians, don't forget how much the gov't has hurt this country and how weak the dollar is. $96K is yesterday's $85K...
Might seem like exaggeration but I don't think so.

At least you get to avoid the $100,000 Trudeau tax.

[trey100]

For those that have a copy of the Canadian guide: There was a table comparing the G87 and F87 options. It showed the F87 having option 2NH described as M Sport brakes but the G87 had a separate code (it had a Z in it) and was described slightly differently. Is the difference just because of the rotor size and floating/fixed caliper change ? I recall they didn't call it M sport brakes.

[hori]

yeah the M2 option pricing is more in line with porsche pricing..lol
G82 M4 territory optioned out, and it`s not whole lot prettier either.

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by trey100

For those that have a copy of the Canadian guide: There was a table comparing the G87 and F87 options. It showed the F87 having option 2NH described as M Sport brakes but the G87 had a separate code (it had a Z in it) and was described slightly differently. Is the difference just because of the rotor size and floating/fixed caliper change ? I recall they didn't call it M sport brakes.

Same brakes as the G82. Ugly floating rear is a no-cost option nobody asked for.

[Kothar]

Where is it? Its not there anymore?

[Wheelwright]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

But seriously, what other options are there in this world for a manual fun car. P cars are way more expensive.

What about Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing ? It is less ugly (IMHO anyway), is roomier, and has more precise and durable manual gearbox (indestructible Tremek vs. weak and rubbery BMW unit). And despite its size the Caddy weights about the same, which in my mind makes it a direct competitor. Also the Caddy rides better because its magnetic damping is superior to what BMW offers. And last but not least it is equipped with a proper button-heavy cockpit, so you don't have to hunt for climate controls all over that LCD screen.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by Wheelwright

What about Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing ? It is less ugly (IMHO anyway), is roomier, and has more precise and durable manual gearbox (indestructible Tremek vs. weak and rubbery BMW unit). And despite its size the Caddy weights about the same, which in my mind makes it a direct competitor. Also the Caddy rides better because its magnetic damping is superior to what BMW offers. And last but not least it is equipped with a proper button-heavy cockpit, so you don't have to hunt for climate controls all over that LCD screen.

I'd love to own one but dealers have no freakin allocations, all car seem to go to the US... At least I can have an M3 next spring.

[GrannyShiftG80]

When are allocations coming

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by Wheelwright

What about Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing ? It is less ugly (IMHO anyway), is roomier, and has more precise and durable manual gearbox (indestructible Tremek vs. weak and rubbery BMW unit). And despite its size the Caddy weights about the same, which in my mind makes it a direct competitor. Also the Caddy rides better because its magnetic damping is superior to what BMW offers. And last but not least it is equipped with a proper button-heavy cockpit, so you don't have to hunt for climate controls all over that LCD screen.

.... and it drives great!

Problem is it's a 4 door Caddy. And hard to find without a huge dealer markup. Tempting though.

The shifter is reportedly better in the M2 prototypes than in the M3/4 available today. We'll see once the driving reviews on the production version come in. And an Auto Solutions or Rogue shift kit will fix the rubbery linkage if it's needed.

[bangerman15]

Originally Posted by Wheelwright

What about Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing ? It is less ugly (IMHO anyway), is roomier, and has more precise and durable manual gearbox (indestructible Tremek vs. weak and rubbery BMW unit). And despite its size the Caddy weights about the same, which in my mind makes it a direct competitor. Also the Caddy rides better because its magnetic damping is superior to what BMW offers. And last but not least it is equipped with a proper button-heavy cockpit, so you don't have to hunt for climate controls all over that LCD screen.

I have a CT4 V Blackwing right now and am 14th on a list for the g87. I do love the Blackwing a lot, but I miss BMW and really enjoyed my old f87 M2C. The Blackwing is better than my M2C I had however, but the new M2 fixes a lot of my wishes I wanted the M2C to have.. I like the exterior more on the g87 as well. The f87 had dated taillights and an ugly rear imo