"S58T" engine designation showing for G87 M2 Competition

ynguldyn · 08-19-2022, 01:22 PM

This whole thread is a wild goose chase.

Tag · 08-19-2022, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

This whole thread is a wild goose chase.

M3WC · 08-19-2022, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

This whole thread is a wild goose chase.

You still under the impression the Comp will be delayed from launch? You had even mentioned maybe as late as LCI.

KevinM · 08-19-2022, 01:33 PM

It's just BMW messing with us...

Dr.Deep · 08-19-2022, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin76

Isn't it a hybrid 4 banger at that?

Yup, but that hybrid motor and battery add 500lbs to the amg gt, that c63 is going to be like 4300lbs.

Thats a shame. I really like the previous gen C63s coupe. I know it was heavy but the sound was awesome. I dont think they are even offering a C63 coupe anymore in the new gen.

They will offer again C63 and a C63S with a total total system output of 670 hp and 750 Nm with the hybrid 2.0 litre engines.

Even with the plug-in hybrid and mild hybrid systems, the overall weight of the new setup is claimed to be lower than what's used today. Apparently the new setup is around 110lbs lighter than the V8…

We gonna see how all this goes…still strange to know these are getting a 4 cylinder…

atl_1M · 08-19-2022, 01:46 PM

There was discussion of this in the future models thread back in May, but I admit most of it was over my head

Future BMW model information https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

Artemis · 08-19-2022, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

The base G87 for EU and US markets has a confirmed power output of 338kW / 453hp.

338kW = 460ps (metric horsepower).

Quite a power bump - at least on paper - compared to the F87 M2 (370ps) and the F87 M2 Competition (410ps). Even a higher power output than the F87 M2 CS (450ps).

kaveh_h · 08-19-2022, 01:50 PM

So is there an actual internal difference between O and T ?

Tag · 08-19-2022, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by atl_1M

There was discussion of this in the future models thread back in May, but I admit most of it was over my head

Future BMW model information https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

This is interesting, this attachment from that thread by BMWGirlFL also shows that the M2's engine is a S5830T0. If you look at the rest of the M3/4's on that list the base models are all S5830O0 while the Competition models are all S5830T0.

The plot thickens...

Tag · 08-19-2022, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemis

338kW = 460ps (metric horsepower).

Quite a power bump - at least on paper - compared to the F87 M2 (370ps) and the F87 M2 Competition (410ps). Even a higher power output than the F87 M2 CS (450ps).

And to think this is just the base model.

unfoundnemo · 08-19-2022, 02:56 PM

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Don't forget ynguldyn

but where'd lemetier go?

G30M · 08-19-2022, 03:17 PM

isn't the M2 getting a detune so not to upstage the big brother and big sister?

MomoM3 · 08-19-2022, 04:19 PM

Dear lord baby Jesus, please give us the G87 Competition and G87 CS in 6MT. Offering my F87 CS 6MT as sacrifice. Amen.

T_U_D · 08-19-2022, 04:23 PM

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Dear lord baby Jesus, please give us the G87 Competition and G87 CS in 6MT. Offering my F87 CS 6MT as sacrifice. Amen.

stefan · 08-19-2022, 05:09 PM

Comp tune with a manual? Is BMW marketing to people who actually like driving? Could it be??

BMWGirlFL · 08-19-2022, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

No one (besides the BMW people working on it) knows anything about M2 Competition at this time.

Engine detail sounds like good news but not new news.

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Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Surprised/confused by absence of comment on this engine detail.

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Both manual and automatic G87s have S58T. The difference is only in the choice of 2MA vs 2TB.

BMWGirlFL · 08-19-2022, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by atl_1M

We need experts like BMWGirlFL to weigh on what this means 😀

My skill/expertise is Googling, cutting & pasting. I don't actually know anything.

LSM · 08-19-2022, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by forcefed

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Originally Posted by Ronin76

Isn't it a hybrid 4 banger at that?

Yup, but that hybrid motor and battery add 500lbs to the amg gt, that c63 is going to be like 4300lbs.

And 670hp but who's counting

forcefed · 08-19-2022, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LSM

And 670hp but who's counting

Yes but...

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The high-performance battery of the AMG GT 63 S E PERFORMANCE has a capacity of 6.1 kWh, 70 kW of continuous output and 150 kW of peak output for ten seconds.

GrannyShiftG80 · 08-19-2022, 07:30 PM

have you guys heard the new c43? it sounds so fucking shit I am scared for the c63

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LYE4ASzZSek

G30M · 08-19-2022, 08:33 PM

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have you guys heard the new c43? it sounds so fucking shit I am scared for the c63

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LYE4ASzZSek

all the buttons on the wheel and spaceship look

M3_Dust · 08-19-2022, 09:12 PM

Is the G87 M2 going to be made in Mexico or?

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