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      03-14-2023, 06:12 PM   #45
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You only oay $500 in sales tax?
There's no sales tax on cars you pay property tax on them which is capped at $500/yr. Just a different setup. In the long term they make more money
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      03-14-2023, 06:14 PM   #46
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There's no sales tax on cars you pay property tax on them which is capped at $500/yr. Just a different setup. In the long term they make more money
Ah thanks for clarifying.
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      03-14-2023, 06:14 PM   #47
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Usually here you are paying 8% to 15% under MSRP ....

But if you convert prices , still pretty expensive.
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      03-14-2023, 06:27 PM   #48
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Feel free to use my deal sheet to drive the prices down for yourself.

Ha! Good luck with that on a priority 1 order.
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      03-14-2023, 06:29 PM   #49
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That doc fee is crazy
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      03-14-2023, 06:33 PM   #50
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$799 definitely isn’t crazy. Average is about $400-500.
Don’t ever buy a car in Florida. They don’t have caps on doc fees or dealer fees. Some places have $1500-2500 in additional fees.

Most people’s orders might not be seen this year, so it’s not like I’m paying an ADM lol.

I’ll probably drive this until my 2024 Cayman GTS 4.0 gets built in August if I take that allocation too. That’s the dream car.
Just don’t want to lose a lot of money, that’s all.

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      03-14-2023, 06:41 PM   #51
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Talk is cheap, we’ll well believe you when you actually buy the car, keys in hand, parked at home with a picture of the car and that days news website with date visible and current events on the headline. It’s the Internet, can’t be too careful.
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      03-14-2023, 06:44 PM   #52
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      03-14-2023, 06:47 PM   #53
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Well, now it’s $2k under sticker lol.
I negotiated a little more.

They have 2 orders currently for auto M2s and they believe if they sell this one quickly, they will be given another allocation to build one of those submitted builds. So they’d rather just discount it to move it fast. Kind of difficult to turn that down.

Is this a HEA car?
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      03-14-2023, 06:47 PM   #54
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Pump Faking..

Seeing a lot of this the closer it gets to release..
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      03-14-2023, 06:57 PM   #55
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Is this a HEA car?
It is.
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Talk is cheap, we’ll well believe you when you actually buy the car, keys in hand, parked at home with a picture of the car and that days news website with date visible and current events on the headline. It’s the Internet, can’t be too careful.
Lol, I don’t disagree. Should be a month from now. I’m happy to keep everyone updated. I know there are a lot of people unfortunately waiting for their car much longer, so I’m happy to get everyone all excited for theirs when I get mine.
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Is this a HEA car?
No, this is not a demo. It’s a new car and will not have been driven. I’m showing up the day it gets to the dealership haha.
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No, this is not a demo. It’s a new car and will not have been driven. I’m showing up the day it gets to the dealership haha.
It’s still a HEA, just not used as a demo. I’m buying a HEA also, it’s still sold as a new car.
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No, this is not a demo. It’s a new car and will not have been driven. I’m showing up the day it gets to the dealership haha.

As stated above, an HEA does not mean its been or is a demo.

Now, why would a dealership think if they sell their HEA it would cause BMW to give them additional customer (modifiable) allocations?
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Hea es modificable
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      03-14-2023, 07:12 PM   #61
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It is.

I knew that, wanted to see what his response was.
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It’s still a HEA, just not used as a demo. I’m buying a HEA also, it’s still sold as a new car.
Had a dealer reach out to me today regarding a HEA car. Said it will be a "demo". I said I had no interest in buying a car that has been subjected to test drives.

Was told no test drives are allowed. The car is roped off on the showroom floor. It is not driven.
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As stated above, an HEA does not mean its been or is a demo.

Now, why would a dealership think if they sell their HEA it would cause BMW to give them additional customer (modifiable) allocations?
Factories like dealers who sell cars. Really the majority of these early cars a bit too well, too much (or not enough) car for most.

Lots of power. It is an M model so I believe it requires an early (1200 miles?) service. A good number are equipped with a manual transmission. And some have a $2600 carbon roof in lieu of a sun/moon roof. Essentially a 2-seater.

One could believe BMW is "testing" its dealers to see which ones move these cars the quickest.

Dealers that move cars get the best treatment. More cars. And better factory to dealer incentives.
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Hea es modificable

They were not in the United States.
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Factories like dealers who sell cars. Really the majority of these early cars a bit too well, too much (or not enough) car for most.

Lots of power. It is an M model so I believe it requires an early (1200 miles?) service. A good number are equipped with a manual transmission. And some have a $2600 carbon roof in lieu of a sun/moon roof. Essentially a 2-seater.

One could believe BMW is "testing" its dealers to see which ones move these cars the quickest.

Dealers that move cars get the best treatment. More cars. And better factory to dealer incentives.
One xould believe that much of your post is abtad from beingbaccurate, as itvrelates to the M car HEAs.

All, or mostly all, dealerships sell their HEAs. That does not trigger BMW to send additional allocations.
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Had a dealer reach out to me today regarding a HEA car. Said it will be a "demo". I said I had no interest in buying a car that has been subjected to test drives.

Was told no test drives are allowed. The car is roped off on the showroom floor. It is not driven.


I highly doubt any of the dealers that retain their HEAs for "show" will allow customers to test drive them.
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