[Cerealkiller]

Which tires did you get from the factory and how many miles did you get out of them before the next set?

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by Cerealkiller

Which tires did you get from the factory and how many miles did you get out of them before the next set?

Why do you ask? Gotta be something more than just curious...

Don't recall what my 2022 230i came with other than the tires were Pirelli tires. And probably run flats. Tire wear was quite reasonable but I only put 8K miles on the car before trading it in.

My 2024 230ix came with:

Pirelli Cinturato P7
225/40 R19
All Season
Run Flat
Load Speed Index: 93V
Load: 93(1433lbs)
V: 149mph (Max)

Tread Wear: 500
Traction: A
Temperature: A

(Estimated cost to replace all 4 tires: $1225.)

Odometer just rolled over 3000 miles and from what I observe tire wear is nil. However, I would expect the 230ix tires will last to at least 30K miles. But given I use the car in all weather even if the tires are not to the wear bars I'd probably replace the tires sooner to ensure optimum traction/grip in all conditions I drive in.

My 2023 M2 came with Michelin tires:

Front: Size: 275/35ZR19 (100Y) XL
Star BMW
Style: Blackwall
Eco Focus: Michelin Total Performance
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: (100Y)
UTQG: 300 AA A

Rear: Size: 285/30ZR20 (99Y) XL
Star BMW
Style: Blackwall
Eco Focus: Michelin Total Performance
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: (99Y)
UTQG: 300 AA A

Last service was at 4833 miles. Tech reported tire tread depth of 6/32nds (0.187) of an inch. Not sure what the new tire tread depth is. That is I didn't measure the tread depth of the new tires. Research turns up nominally 10/32" (0.312) but there is some info that the actual tread depth is less. From 8/32 (0.250) of an inch to 8.5/32 (0.265) of an inch.

(Less tread depth even from new with high performance tires is not uncommon in my experience. High performance tires come with a bit less tread depth than regular tires to provide a better road feel. But at a cost of less miles per tire because the tires start out with less tread depth.)

Since retiring (no pun...) in March 2020 I have not driven any vehicle enough miles to wear out the tires and thus can't say based on experience with my current vehicles what tire life will be with either car.

But the tire wear of the M2 tires suggest that assuming the tires started out with 8/32nd of an inch of tread depth that at 2/32nds of an inch (when the tires will be at their wear bars and thus worn out) the tires will have accumulated around 15K miles miles.

(At a quoted replacement cost of $582/tire for the rear tires and estimating the front tires will be $100 less per tire a set of tires will run me approx. $1500.

Might add my vehicle usage: Both my 230ix and my M2; involves a mix of surface street and freeway driving with no hooning around.

[Gravityct]

This will depend on a lot of things honestly. Best you could hope for would be a rough est. on average number. Driving style, temperature extremes and averages, road condition, alignment settings, pressure settings and how well they've been maintained throughout the operating will all go into how long it will last. I've had really expensive performance tires last 1500-30k miles and all seasons 5k-50k. As a which one will last longer with other factors removed, a tire with a higher treadwear will run longer, but the higher the treadwear the less "performance" the tire will have within its designed category.

[Bimmer Pleaser]

Originally Posted by Cerealkiller

Which tires did you get from the factory and how many miles did you get out of them before the next set?

Factory RF Bridgestone Turanza. After 8 months fronts basically brand new but rears pretty much bald. It was a RWD and I drove it a lot in the Colorado and WA mountains before sold it a few weeks ago.

[Bandit009]

Originally Posted by Cerealkiller

Which tires did you get from the factory and how many miles did you get out of them before the next set?

Pilot 4s. 6k miles on car. About a year and 3 months old.

[slickooz]

6k miles?!?! On p4s, ooo gawd. Tires going make me poor.

[peaceindriving]

Car came with Pirelli P0 non run flat, changed them out about 18 months with 22k miles.

[bigmoto29]

Peace, you got 22,000 miles before changing your Pirelli's? My last three two series I have been averaging 14k... before needing rears for sure.

[peaceindriving]

[QUOTE=bigmoto29;30961346]Peace, you got 22,000 miles before changing your Pirelli's? My last three two series I have been averaging 14k... before needing rears for sure.

Most of those were highway miles, so likely aided in lasting longer.

[bigmoto29]

Right on!!! Hoping I dont roast these Pirellis too bad, its hard not to gas it all the time, LOL!!!

[MurphM240i]

2023 M240i here with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season run flats.

My car has 8,000 miles and the rear tires are already worn down to the banding. I wouldn't say my driving is that extreme as it's basically used to go from my house to the grocery store with the occasional pull here and there. Traction control is always on so I'm not sliding or burning out.

I called a local tire shop to price a new set and they found it odd these tires went so quickly. I called BMW and they will be checking my car's alignment (it was in an accident last fall) to see if that may have contributed.

Anyone else have issues with these tires?


NOTE: I'm coming from an M2 Comp that got almost 25,000 miles on the stock summer tires (if that's any indication how I typically drive).

[AlexC2er]

Originally Posted by MurphM240i

2023 M240i here with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season run flats.

My car has 8,000 miles and the rear tires are already worn down to the banding. I wouldn't say my driving is that extreme as it's basically used to go from my house to the grocery store with the occasional pull here and there. Traction control is always on so I'm not sliding or burning out.

I called a local tire shop to price a new set and they found it odd these tires went so quickly. I called BMW and they will be checking my car's alignment (it was in an accident last fall) to see if that may have contributed.

Anyone else have issues with these tires?


NOTE: I'm coming from an M2 Comp that got almost 25,000 miles on the stock summer tires (if that's any indication how I typically drive).

Is the wear even?

[Bandit009]

Originally Posted by Bandit009

Pilot 4s. 6k miles on car. About a year and 3 months old.

Sorry I misread the original question. I thought it was how many miles do you have on your tires. Now I see it was how many when you replaced your tires. My tires are still good at 6k+ miles.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by MurphM240i

2023 M240i here with Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season run flats.

My car has 8,000 miles and the rear tires are already worn down to the banding. I wouldn't say my driving is that extreme as it's basically used to go from my house to the grocery store with the occasional pull here and there. Traction control is always on so I'm not sliding or burning out.

I called a local tire shop to price a new set and they found it odd these tires went so quickly. I called BMW and they will be checking my car's alignment (it was in an accident last fall) to see if that may have contributed.

Anyone else have issues with these tires?


NOTE: I'm coming from an M2 Comp that got almost 25,000 miles on the stock summer tires (if that's any indication how I typically drive).

Alignment is critical for maximizing tire life. I learned this first with my Porsche cars.

And after an accident the alignment can be off.

Hit a mule deer with my Porsche 996 Turbo. Fortunately no suspension/steering hardware damage.

But after the car was repaired as part of the repair agreement I had with the body shop and dealer who recommended the body shop I had the car in for an alignment. It was aligned.

But in 8K miles the rear tires were shot. Very uneven tire wear with the inside tread surfaces worn down to the bands.

Had new tires fitted -- this at another dealer nearer to me -- and the car aligned again. Tech at this dealer used to work at the dealer where I had the car aligned before. He asked me which rack was used? I told him the one in the Porsche service department. Tech told me that rack was junk when he worked there. The better rack was the one next door in the M-B service department.

Tech aligned the Turbo. Tire life jumped to 20K miles. This was set after set of rear tires. (I put 150K miles on the car.)

[Jashue]

I drive more than most here, I suspect. When I'm having fun with the car I'm tough on the tires, but a great deal of my milage is gentle highway driving. This is probably the best case scenario for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S: 28,422 miles before replacement.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by Jashue

I drive more than most here, I suspect. When I'm having fun with the car I'm tough on the tires, but a great deal of my milage is gentle highway driving. This is probably the best case scenario for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S: 28,422 miles before replacement.

That's not bad.

[MurphM240i]

Originally Posted by AlexC2er

Is the wear even?

No. It's just the insides of each tire.

Went to the dealership, they confirmed it's an alignment issue. I asked if an alignment is standard after being rear ended, they said no.

For context, my car was rear ended in December by a person going about 25 mph. I got it fixed at my dealership's body shop. Received the car back Jan 10. That same day, I got an inspection and passed. Two months later my rear tires are worn to the bands.

They told me there's no way to connect the alignment to the accident and that I could have hit a pothole at some point. They denied any liability for the tires.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by MurphM240i

No. It's just the insides of each tire.

Went to the dealership, they confirmed it's an alignment issue. I asked if an alignment is standard after being rear ended, they said no.

For context, my car was rear ended in December by a person going about 25 mph. I got it fixed at my dealership's body shop. Received the car back Jan 10. That same day, I got an inspection and passed. Two months later my rear tires are worn to the bands.

They told me there's no way to connect the alignment to the accident and that I could have hit a pothole at some point. They denied any liability for the tires.

The wear concentrated on the inside edges is a toe (in) problem. Rather common for cars with independent rear suspension.

With the tires worn out to state the obvious you are faced with getting the tires replaced.

Then to keep this from happening again getting the car in for a proper alignment.

I always ask the steering wheel be centered/level and for a before and after printout.