N54 Tune Comparison Chart (Detailed)

AltecBX · 04-13-2010, 08:35 PM

UPDATED!

So here it is guys and girls... This is an updated 2013 comparison chart to compare the popular tunes out for the n54 engine. For those of you that are ready to buy a tune for your vehicle (BMW 135, 335, 335is 535, X635i, Z435i), this comparison chart will help you narrow down to the tune of your choice. The chart is in .PDF format so you can go to links associated with the text. This chart goes in detail and defines all the properties of these tunes. On the second page, you will find a breakdown on the features that the JB4 and PROcede v5 have. Both camps have contributed to this chart as well as reviewed it for accuracy.

I'll be collecting new data as time goes by and tuners come up with more features and improvements to implement to their respective tunes. The chart will be updated accordingly. That said the features listed in the chart are what is currently available in the market.

Disclaimer:
Anything aftermarket can void your warranty. Read your new vehicle warranty carefully before deciding to start upgrading your vehicle.
You are protected under the Magnusson Moss Warranty act which states that a dealer must prove that a specific modification is causing an issue before refusing warranty service. This means that they cannot outright void the warranty because you have an aftermarket mod but must prove that for instance a blow off valve is causing engine problems.

D@m!n!C@no · 04-13-2010, 08:54 PM

wow this is nice!! thanks for sharing this..

sticky??

AltecBX · 04-13-2010, 08:54 PM

No prob!

Dr_Dirt · 04-13-2010, 08:55 PM

Can you specify whether the hp is bhp or whp.
Now, I am not knocking Dinan's tune however I beg to differ regarding the Dinan gains, even Dinan stage 2 at maximum power is only a gain of 54 bhp and 49 whp using Dinan's #'s.
You need to remember when looking at Dinan's peak power of 384hp that they started at 330hp so 384-330=54hp gain.
And the money back warranty on the tune according to my dealer was 72 hrs.

OpenFlash · 04-13-2010, 09:06 PM

Looks great! But you should change "CPS offsetting" to "Ignition Timing Control" because the latter is an umbrella term which covers both for of ignition advance tuning (cps offsetting and ignition table remapping a la reflashes.)

kirby135i · 04-13-2010, 09:19 PM

why isnt Lean Cruise set for Procede?

kenneth · 04-13-2010, 09:23 PM

This is great work, thanks for doing this! Wonderful.

Can you include the various BT tool prices? I think there are a few options available.

Freakazoid · 04-13-2010, 09:26 PM

Ok that is an amazing comparison. Well done and good job at being completely impartial! PLEASE sticky!

Dr_Dirt · 04-13-2010, 09:33 PM

I also like the technical support phone's, well done

TwinTurboXI · 04-13-2010, 09:54 PM

Great Info, thanks for putting in the work!

dzenno · 04-13-2010, 10:01 PM

Good job

tek818 · 04-13-2010, 10:17 PM

The Dinan stage 1 flash does NOT require an oil cooler. Also, their stage 2 flash is more in-line with the other products listed. Dinan stage 1 flash is comparable to a JB+ imho...

ala012 · 04-13-2010, 10:21 PM

I was waiting for this.

Great work !

02themax · 04-13-2010, 10:35 PM

JB+ should be in there as well, nice chart.

StartupJunkie · 04-13-2010, 10:45 PM

Hi AltecBX,

Great job on putting this together ... I know you were getting a lot of flack for asking all those questions, I'm glad you stuck to it and got this version completed.

I think many on the forums will appreciate this (even if they don't say so).

Junk

PS. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks and corrections in the next few days ... other posters, please be considerate in how your phase those corrections!!

OpenFlash · 04-13-2010, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StartupJunkie

Hi AltecBX,

Great job on putting this together ... I know you were getting a lot of flack for asking all those questions, I'm glad you stuck to it and got this version completed.

I think many on the forums will appreciate this (even if they don't say so).

Junk

+100

UdubBadger · 04-13-2010, 10:52 PM

You forgot Eurocharged's ECU tune

oner · 04-13-2010, 11:06 PM

Uh...Altec.. you forgot Evolve flash.. just kidding man. Great Job on this chart You will be remembered by us E90posters for creating this chart.

AltecBX · 04-14-2010, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

Can you specify whether the hp is bhp or whp.
Now, I am not knocking Dinan's tune however I beg to differ regarding the Dinan gains, even Dinan stage 2 at maximum power is only a gain of 54 bhp and 49 whp using Dinan's #'s.
You need to remember when looking at Dinan's peak power of 384hp that they started at 330hp so 384-330=54hp gain.
And the money back warranty on the tune according to my dealer was 72 hrs.

Its the HP increase that I saw with those mods.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Looks great! But you should change "CPS offsetting" to "Ignition Timing Control" because the latter is an umbrella term which covers both for of ignition advance tuning (cps offsetting and ignition table remapping a la reflashes.)

I originally had it labeled that, but figured CPS was basically the same thing in different wording. I also didn't want to have this whole back and forth on indirect or direct timing as it went on here. I just hope that when time is present, both parties can come to an agreement based on findings of both side.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirby135i

why isnt Lean Cruise set for Procede?

The Procede has this feature built in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tek818

The Dinan stage 1 flash does NOT require an oil cooler. Also, their stage 2 flash is more in-line with the other products listed. Dinan stage 1 flash is comparable to a JB+ imho...

I stand corrected. I will change later when I revise. They do require it for Stage 2. I didn't mentioned Stage 2 as it cost $2199 which is well above the other tuners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02themax

JB+ should be in there as well, nice chart.

Didn't want to compare the JB+ with the more powerful and tunable tuners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StartupJunkie

Hi AltecBX,

Great job on putting this together ... I know you were getting a lot of flack for asking all those questions, I'm glad you stuck to it and got this version completed.

I think many on the forums will appreciate this (even if they don't say so).

Junk

PS. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks and corrections in the next few days ... other posters, please be considerate in how your phase those corrections!!

Thanks to all you guys that answered my question and for bearing with me with my ? signs. I'll definite be revising the chart as time goes by and tuners come out with more features for their tunes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

You forgot Eurocharged's ECU tune

When time permits, I'll definite start researching that tune. If any info, bring it my way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oner

Uh...Altec.. you forgot Evolve flash.. just kidding man. Great Job on this chart You will be remembered by us E90posters for creating this chart.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 04-14-2010, 08:16 AM

No love for the JB3 Pin-Out

With more and more cars coming out of warranty the Pin-Out is definitely attracting more attention and providing an unbelievable price point!

Mike

Ferre86 · 04-14-2010, 08:23 AM

that would be great begining for new users! greatjob..

ianthegreat · 04-14-2010, 08:32 AM

Great job Altec!

04-13-2010, 08:54 PM	#2
D@m!n!C@no Why so serious? 8 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe, E30 325is Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Old City, PA iTrader: (0)	wow this is nice!! thanks for sharing this.. sticky?? __________________ _________________________ 08 BMW e92 335i //AW/Coral Red 87 BMW e30 325is //JB/Cardinal Red
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04-13-2010, 08:55 PM	#4
Dr_Dirt Major 63 Rep 1,476 Posts Drives: E90 335i 6AT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Can you specify whether the hp is bhp or whp. Now, I am not knocking Dinan's tune however I beg to differ regarding the Dinan gains, even Dinan stage 2 at maximum power is only a gain of 54 bhp and 49 whp using Dinan's #'s. You need to remember when looking at Dinan's peak power of 384hp that they started at 330hp so 384-330=54hp gain. And the money back warranty on the tune according to my dealer was 72 hrs.
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04-13-2010, 09:19 PM	#6
kirby135i Lieutenant 15 Rep 506 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: here iTrader: (1)	why isnt Lean Cruise set for Procede?
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04-13-2010, 09:23 PM	#7
kenneth Major General 127 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	This is great work, thanks for doing this! Wonderful. Can you include the various BT tool prices? I think there are a few options available. __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
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04-13-2010, 09:26 PM	#8
Freakazoid Captain 188 Rep 962 Posts Drives: Saturn Redline Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (0)	Ok that is an amazing comparison. Well done and good job at being completely impartial! PLEASE sticky!
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04-13-2010, 09:33 PM	#9
Dr_Dirt Major 63 Rep 1,476 Posts Drives: E90 335i 6AT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	I also like the technical support phone's, well done
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04-13-2010, 09:54 PM	#10
TwinTurboXI Lieutenant Colonel 162 Rep 1,523 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . iTrader: (12)	Great Info, thanks for putting in the work!
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tek818 Lieutenant Colonel 137 Rep 1,953 Posts Drives: 2020 X3M Competition Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2018 M3 ZCP [9.50]	The Dinan stage 1 flash does NOT require an oil cooler. Also, their stage 2 flash is more in-line with the other products listed. Dinan stage 1 flash is comparable to a JB+ imho...
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02themax Captain 28 Rep 946 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary, AB iTrader: (6)	JB+ should be in there as well, nice chart. __________________ E90 335i Sport Package - Logic 7 Sound w/ipod - Bluetooth - Comfort Access - PDC - 19" M3 Reps 275/30 235/35 - Blacklines - 10mil spacers rear, 5mil spacers front - BMW Alarm
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StartupJunkie First Lieutenant 30 Rep 314 Posts Drives: 07 BMW 335i Sedan+2 Baby Seats Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SF South Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Hi AltecBX, Great job on putting this together ... I know you were getting a lot of flack for asking all those questions, I'm glad you stuck to it and got this version completed. I think many on the forums will appreciate this (even if they don't say so). Junk PS. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks and corrections in the next few days ... other posters, please be considerate in how your phase those corrections!! __________________ 11.535@124.423mph (1.641 60') - AutoTune 7-27, Race+Meth, Best ET w/ only 80% throttle 1st and 2nd 11.647@121.356mph (1.590 60') - AutoTune (beta pre-5-15), Race Gas, No METH Perf Mods: Vishnu PROcede Rev3 v5, Vishnu PWM Meth Kit, AR Design DPs, AE Exhaust, Helix FMIC, Vishnu DCI, Forge DV, WaveTrac LSD (Best Trap - 124.665mph)
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oner Second Lieutenant 29 Rep 214 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Uh...Altec.. you forgot Evolve flash.. just kidding man. Great Job on this chart You will be remembered by us E90posters for creating this chart.
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04-14-2010, 08:16 AM	#20
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