[Em240eye]

Originally Posted by Lightngsvt

So, if the new M240 had just been named the 240 would there have been as much uproar?

They’d have to remove their precious mirrors too.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

To me, this M2 looks like it's stuck in 1995. Like someone wearing a loose suit.

According to your name, you're from another universe, so what would you know?

Just kidding, couldn't help myself

[6speed_M2]

Originally Posted by Lightngsvt

So, if the new M240 had just been named the 240 would there have been as much uproar?

It's marketing genius. The majority of people don't know the difference. They think it's a "M" car. It's close to one but no cigar.

[6speed_M2]

Originally Posted by Em240eye

They'd have to remove their precious mirrors too.

This is one of two things I find confusing about this car… who signed off on this!? Lol.

My OG M2 doesn't have M mirrors but the M240 does??? It's odd.

Also, why would they give this car the xdrive but according to early signs from other forum members, the M2 isn't going to have the xdrive option. I hope they're wrong but that makes no sense to me. How much longer will they hold back the M2 to keep it from being the best M car available? It's pretty much identical to the M3/4 at this point.

That's one feature I'm looking forward to most (xdrive).

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

OG M2 faster on the Nordschleife vs G82

Such a slug… 💨

F87cs did like 7:42

Rwd g82c did 7:30

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by TrentMeister

F87cs did like 7:42

Rwd g82c did 7:30

I typed G instead of F

Still damn good

My bad

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by BRAKE!

Both are good cars - it’s a win-win is how I look at it. One has redeeming features the other one doesn’t have, vice versa. It’s okay to pick the one you want, you don’t have to turn every single thing into a **** measuring contest

Of course you do otherwise who would create these videos to entertain us!

[sikotic]

Originally Posted by 6speed_M2

It's marketing genius. The majority of people don't know the difference. They think it's a "M" car. It's close to one but no cigar.

According to BMW they are an "M" car now, so I think thats where most of the confusion is coming from. They are completely separated from the standard models, and are listed under BMW M in the Build Your Own category. As BMW updates, I think people will need to update their terminology as well.

[6speed_M2]

Originally Posted by sikotic

According to BMW they are an "M" car now, so I think thats where most of the confusion is coming from. They are completely separated from the standard models, and are listed under BMW M in the Build Your Own category. As BMW updates, I think people will need to update their terminology as well.

If BMW M makes the car, then it's got some M car sprinkles in it. If BMW makes the car, no. Other than where it's built it's all on which division produces the car from the development stages.

I know the new M2 will be built in Mexico (as I've heard) so there are exceptions in terms of WHO builds the car but not who creates the car on an engineering/testing level

[sikotic]

Originally Posted by 6speed_M2

If BMW M makes the car, then it's got some M car sprinkles in it. If BMW makes the car, no. Other than where it's built it's all on which division produces the car from the development stages.

I know the new M2 will be built in Mexico (as I've heard) so there are exceptions in terms of WHO builds the car but not who creates the car on an engineering/testing level

I agree. BMWUSA website for the M340i it states "Enhanced performance and design, engineered by BMW M." so it's clear that they are classifying these cars differently than ever before and separating them from the 330's etc..

It's just toxic when I've seen members getting bullied by others saying "let me guess, you call your car an Mxxxi" when thats exactly what they are called by BMW. No reason to discourage people from enjoying their cars

[sikotic]

Originally Posted by RideM

Why would someone buy a low tech, slow car with no arms rests?

Wow it looks soooooo good... That wheel and color combo is incredible

[Roulis]

It all comes down to Covid, if the chip shortage was not a thing James' LCI would be below $40K and then we would all admit that for the money the F87 is unbeatable.

Now that 5-year old cars are sold for their MSRP we came up with the "lightness and purity" arguments to justify the purchase. Once the G87 is out we are all gonna praise the new beast (which is gonna a be heavy too but we wont care)

[Denver Coutu]

Originally Posted by yanks1

M2 should be better, the M240 is not a true blood M Car, but damn close.

That said, the M240xi is damn quick off the line... X drive really helps. And regarding weight vs the future RWD M240 I think may only be 150 lbs. Not a big deal when 99% of us will never race a M240. I like the stability and broad shoulders, looks aggressive & great tire & wheel choices

Like these guys, they are entertaining and have fun!!

The OG M2 is not a "true blood M car' either lmfao

[________]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

The OG M2 is not a "true blood M car' either lmfao

Here we go again…..

[6speed_M2]

Originally Posted by sikotic

I agree. BMWUSA website for the M340i it states "Enhanced performance and design, engineered by BMW M." so it's clear that they are classifying these cars differently than ever before and separating them from the 330's etc..

It's just toxic when I've seen members getting bullied by others saying "let me guess, you call your car an Mxxxi" when thats exactly what they are called by BMW. No reason to discourage people from enjoying their cars

That's the key word in your quote. "Engineered", not inspired. If that's what they say then maybe it is built by them?

I'm all for people enjoying what they bought with their hard earned money, but it's not an M car. An M car is the M letter with a single number after it.

M2/3/4/5/8

That's not to take away from the greatness that the M240i xdrive has by any means. It's just to say there's levels to it.

The M340i xdrive being as cool as it is, is still levels below a M3 xdrive. I would still drive a M340i any day out the week but if money wasn't an option I'd get the bigger brother.

There's a reason it's more expensive. You get more engine, power, suspension, interior, exterior, brakes, etc.

[tahoebimmer]

Originally Posted by 6speed_M2

I believe it's still practical, but for different height groups. It does have climate control and usb-c chargers in the back for the first time in a 1 or 2 series coupe.

Instead of being ideal for passengers that are 5'8 to 6'0, it's for those that are 5'4 to 5'7. I would choose this car over the others you listed.

My dog is about 3' tall so I think he will be happy back there. The important thing for us was how the seat auto-slides forward to allow him to jump in easily.

My wife is 5'3" so if she's mad at me she can choose to ride back there to make giving me the silent treatment easier

[6speed_M2]

Originally Posted by Denver Coutu

The OG M2 is not a "true blood M car' either lmfao

I would respectfully disagree. M cars aren't about engines. Every gen M car has a different engine. It's not like Chevy was with their 6.2 liter motor being in every car.

M is about a bulky and aggressive exterior, suspension & brakes. I believe they made the 1M and M2 with the N54/55 engines for sales purposes. They must've thought if they had the S65 & S55, the market for the 3/4 would crash but the comp M2 showed us otherwise. People still love the bigger cars.

In the case of the M2 comp you really have no argument at all so it's a 50/50 shot at best

Still, I'd take the N55 as a track engine over the all gen engines of M3 pre 2015 so I guess neither of those slow cars are M cars either

[Scurvee]

Originally Posted by BobHen

Give me a break.

The “non” M2 destroyed the M2 to 60mph. I mean it wasn’t even close. And it also bested the M2 by a good margin in the roll. And the M2 owner then says the M2 puts a smile on his face – well he wasn’t smiling after those two races was he? He even says, “come on BMW why are you making non-M cars with that much power!” You’ll notice the M240i driver is smiling ear-to-ear. Did the weight matter in those races? Embarrassing is right.

I test-drove an M240i on suburban Philadelphia roads (which are never the best here in the northeast) with the suspension in comfort and everything else in sport and it was fine. I thought the ride quality was as good or better than my 330i with a fixed suspension and it never felt the least bit “jittery”. The term “jittery” never once entered my mind. As a matter of fact, it felt pretty darn good. The M240i was surprisingly easy to drive: power of course, brakes good and easy to modulate, steering sharp and tight and ride quality sporty as expected but fine over suburban roads and the seats are very comfortable. Bring that fixed suspension M2 down here on these roads and we’ll see just how “jittery” that car is. No other reviewer has mentioned a jittery ride.

And no one is buying an M240i with the expectation of putting 2 adults in the back and driving long distances, any more than they would with a Mustang GT; kid-less adults or families with multiple cars are the demographic.

To me, the review (or more rightly the “comparison”) sounded like they were looking for things that made the M2 the better choice, maybe because one of the reviewers just bought one. If it just comes down to the M2 having more backseat room and less weight, I’ll stick with the M240i all day long.

All IMO of course – just like their “review”.

Bob

You sound awfully angry and toxic for someone who chose to forget to mention the most important aspect to any vehicle performance, tire compound. I’m a fan of all BMW’s but I have to completely dismiss this video besides the exterior/interior design opinions.
M2 is on Michelin pilot super sport star spec tires which glass up at 45F. This video was recorded at -1C/30F. I cannot see what tires are on the M240i, but knowing BMW they put season specific tires on their press cars. I would bet they are running all seasons or winter tires. If the M240 is on summer’s as well it is just another reason to dismiss the results.
Needless to say it is just physics from there; the M2 power to weight ratio is better and the star-spec super sports hook up hard in anything down to about 50F in my experience. So I would honestly bet money that if they ran these exact cars again at anything above 50F the M2 would still surprise a lot of people. I’ve also experienced manual M2’s launching harder than DCT variants because an experienced driver can easily slip the clutch to create a smoother launch than launch-control produces.
I love throttle house regardless, these guys are a hoot and make some good , light-hearted videos. Buy whatever you want and enjoy, but physics are physics.

[kumizi206]

M2 is a better enthusiast car and m240i Xdrive is a better daily for most people.

Having faster acceleration doesnt make a car the better sports car. Look at 911 turbo vs GT3.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by 6speed_M2

It's marketing genius. The majority of people don't know the difference. They think it's a "M" car. It's close to one but no cigar.

Yep. I have a neighbor who's constantly telling everyone about his M7. It's not even a M760, it just has M-Performance pieces on it. I don't have the heart to correct him he's not a car guy after all. To which your point, would be spot on.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by 6speed_M2

why would they give this car the xdrive

Because that's what moves units in the US..


BMW M235i is Faster On Track Than 1M Coupe (Our 2 Series Interview From Detroit) https://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935130

[Giom]

I guess the reason there is so much less space at the back is because the entire green house is smaller. For once, at BMW, form doesn't follow function, it seems.