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      08-10-2023, 10:18 PM   #639
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Coast is not a good description.

It allows you to drive to the gas station normally. No loss in power for a normal drive. If there’s any issue, it’s above 4000rpm (which you wouldn’t do if there’s less than 20 miles of range).
Fair, bad wording on my part meant more like you're able to drive to fill up but not WOT or above 4k which at that point is more than reasonable.
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Fair, bad wording on my part meant more like you're able to drive to fill up but not WOT or above 4k which at that point is more than reasonable.
Agreed! At that point you’re praying for a gas station anyway lol
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What I did to my g87 today:

I picked it up finally!!! Took it to ppf shop to get a sample of stek dynoprism. Have it scheduled for ppf Monday, hopefully getting the litespeed wheels swapped in ASAP. I think I'm gonna wait for photos till the wheels, tint, and ppf are done.
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      08-10-2023, 11:48 PM   #642
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Obtained - car delivered to me by my dealer here in Germany. Beautiful drive back up to home in Frankfurt from south of Stuttgart. Its good to be back in the M2 family. My 17 M2 was superb. Certainly the G87 feels even better. Enjoy the photo's!
Spec overall - Toronto Red/Sport-Auto/Alcantara-Sensatec seats/
DAB tuner/Sunroof!

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Def not a risk! Would like to try those as well. I'm sure they'll be great, I'm just a Michelin fanboy.

What are the wheel specs you went with for front wheels?

I'm also going up 0.5" on the rear wheels I just ordered but will be reusing stocks. Not a big deal at all I do it on all my cars. 1"-2" extra, prob wouldn't recommend haha. Let's just hope I win the tire lottery

I have too many other places to spend that extra $2k
I heard that. I didn't really want to part with the cash for the tires but did end up getting them for 10% off so it wasn't horrible. I also got my forged wheels for a significant discount since I helped the vendor out.

I stuck with the 19 front/20 rear scenario... almost went to 20's up front but the ride quality when I had 18's on it was a huge difference from the 19's so I didn't want to make that type of sacrifice on ride quality going from 19 to 20 up front... if it were just about looks I would've done 20/21's
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Obtained - car delivered to me by my dealer here in Germany. Beautiful drive back up to home in Frankfurt from south of Stuttgart. Its good to be back in the M2 family. My 17 M2 was superb. Certainly the G87 feels even better. Enjoy the photo's!
Spec overall - Toronto Red/Sport-Auto/Alcanta-Sensatec seats/
DAB tuner/Sunroof!

Have a super weekend!
Wow manual seats!

Congratulations!

I have a feeling your weekend will be spectacular! Enjoy
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Wow manual seats!

Congratulations!

I have a feeling your weekend will be spectacular! Enjoy
With an M2 in our garage's we are all SPECTACULAR LOL!
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I heard that. I didn't really want to part with the cash for the tires but did end up getting them for 10% off so it wasn't horrible. I also got my forged wheels for a significant discount since I helped the vendor out.

I stuck with the 19 front/20 rear scenario... almost went to 20's up front but the ride quality when I had 18's on it was a huge difference from the 19's so I didn't want to make that type of sacrifice on ride quality going from 19 to 20 up front... if it were just about looks I would've done 20/21's
What width/offset specs?
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What width/offset specs?
19x10" ET12
20x11" ET18

I'll post photos after the wheels are on... need to lower it too. The link in my signature is my car on the manufacturer's website.
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19x10" ET12
20x11" ET18

I'll post photos after the wheels are on... need to lower it too. The link in my signature is my car on the manufacturer's website.
You will probably need a 10mm spacer in the rear w/ those, what sparked the +18? That will be the same fitment as stock wheels with an 8mm spacer. Front should be within 1-2mm of perfect

I just went
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827Ms are on! For some reason they wanted to do an alignment. Unfortunately, they did an alignment for a G42 because they didn't have the right equipment for a G87. Now my car feels weird and pulls left. If anyone knows alignment specs they printed me the sheet. I'd like to have an idea of how bad it is.

It's going back soon.
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827Ms are on! For some reason they wanted to do an alignment. Unfortunately, they did an alignment for a G42 because they didn't have the right equipment for a G87. Now my car feels weird and pulls left. If anyone knows alignment specs they printed me the sheet. I'd like to have an idea of how bad it is.

It's going back soon.
There is no reason to do an alignment after changing wheels... only if you change suspension heights/components. How is the 'equipment' any different to align two cars that are nearly the same? Every other alignment shop is able to do any car at any time. Definitely shouldn't pull after that either, sounds like they just screwed you around to make some extra money. I would try to get your money back AFTER they put your alignment back to spec...

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There is no reason to do an alignment after changing wheels... only if you change suspension heights/components. How is the 'equipment' any different to align two cars that are nearly the same? Every other alignment shop is able to do any car at any time. Definitely shouldn't pull after that either, sounds like they just screwed you around to make some extra money. I would try to get your money back AFTER they put your alignment back to spec...

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The equipment isn’t different. The computer that tells the technician which degrees to set each wheel is out of date. G42 and G87 are very different. Alignment should not have been performed without the proper specs.

Luckily he mentioned the dealer will correct it later. But now his car is out of alignment and will eat tires. This is really bad form for this dealer.

My dealer refused to do an alignment until they get the right specs, they need to update their software. This is the correct way.
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827Ms are on! For some reason they wanted to do an alignment. Unfortunately, they did an alignment for a G42 because they didn't have the right equipment for a G87. Now my car feels weird and pulls left. If anyone knows alignment specs they printed me the sheet. I'd like to have an idea of how bad it is.

It's going back soon.

If the alignment specs are not available for the G87, the G82 specs are likely to be the same, other than the wheelbase difference (which should only affect the thrust angle slightly). I would have the dealer set to those specs if they haven't got the correct specs yet.
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The equipment isn’t different. The computer that tells the technician which degrees to set each wheel is out of date. G42 and G87 are very different. Alignment should not have been performed without the proper specs.

Luckily he mentioned the dealer will correct it later. But now his car is out of alignment and will eat tires. This is really bad form for this dealer.

My dealer refused to do an alignment until they get the right specs, they need to update their software. This is the correct way.
Gotcha, I thought he meant the actual hardware. Makes sense for specs to not be updated yet, but I imagine they could still just set the specs safely to G80/G82/G42 and not have the car pulling to a side.
Regardless, I don't see why they're messing with alignment in the first place for a wheel swap.
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827Ms are on! For some reason they wanted to do an alignment. Unfortunately, they did an alignment for a G42 because they didn't have the right equipment for a G87. Now my car feels weird and pulls left. If anyone knows alignment specs they printed me the sheet. I'd like to have an idea of how bad it is.

It's going back soon.
Looks amazing, post more pics
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Gotcha, I thought he meant the actual hardware. Makes sense for specs to not be updated yet, but I imagine they could still just set the specs safely to G80/G82/G42 and not have the car pulling to a side.
Regardless, I don't see why they're messing with alignment in the first place for a wheel swap.
They are what is technically called “stupid”.

In the definition of the word that says that you’re doing something without thinking about it.

It’s industry practice to perform an alignment every time you install new tires, as a suggestion, to ensure your brand new tires are put on properly and the car is aligned perfectly to ensure they wear well.

They missed 1- it’s a new car, so alignment shouldn’t be off, 2- they didn’t have the right specs, so they shouldn’t touch it blindly.

Setting a car up as another one is worse than leaving it as is. Stupid.
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You will probably need a 10mm spacer in the rear w/ those, what sparked the +18? That will be the same fitment as stock wheels with an 8mm spacer. Front should be within 1-2mm of perfect

I just went
19x9.5 +5
20x11 +8
I liked the look/price/availability of the wheel. I can live with spacers if I need to change the fitment. Since I'm lowering I figured I would fine tune the depth after that. They make the 20x10 in a +8 but the 20x11 is only available as +18. Expert@ApexRaceParts may be able to comment further.
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There is no reason to do an alignment after changing wheels... only if you change suspension heights/components. How is the 'equipment' any different to align two cars that are nearly the same? Every other alignment shop is able to do any car at any time. Definitely shouldn't pull after that either, sounds like they just screwed you around to make some extra money. I would try to get your money back AFTER they put your alignment back to spec...

Post up the sheet
Believe me when I say, I'm not upset with them at all. They didn't charge me for the alignment, the technician actually messaged me on Instagram explaining everything, swapping wheels and tires was only $64 per wheel, and on top of all of that they're helping me sell the wheels that came off. This mishap was really the dealer just trying to go above and beyond, just not having the right software/equipment. My G87 is the first and only one this service department is currently seeing.

Here's the alignment spec sheet.
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