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05-06-2022, 11:43 AM | #1 | |
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BMWs Temporarily Being Shipped Without Apple CarPlay, Android Auto
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05-06-2022, 08:19 PM | #3 |
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Is it because they have to develop the software for it? Is the chip inferior in any way? I.e. slower, loses features, etc
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05-06-2022, 08:30 PM | #4 |
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Some manufactures are producing smaller screens as well as a half digital/half analogue system over previous models just to pump out cars.
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05-06-2022, 08:31 PM | #5 |
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This feels wildly unacceptable given the sticker of most vehicles. I'm not intimately familiar with specific supply chains but a 2022+ vehicle without what should be standard features seems ridiculous.
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05-06-2022, 08:39 PM | #6 |
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But BMW is going full steam ahead with the dual screen ID8. Makes zero sense.
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05-06-2022, 08:47 PM | #7 |
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Without the wireless chip, Wireless Android Auto is a no go. We're back to the stone age where people connected wires for AA.
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05-06-2022, 09:06 PM | #8 | |
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As for your other question - there's no reason the replacement controller (chip) would be inferior to the original. They are both likely equally spec'ed Cortex-based processors, perhaps from different manufacturers - which would need a code re-compile and retargeting for the differences in perpipherals from vendor to vendor. |
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05-06-2022, 09:14 PM | #9 | |
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a) Don't produce car at all b) Produce but omit certain features Everyone agrees it's "unacceptable", including BMW. All parties want it resolved ASAP, but Option B is better than Option A. |
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05-06-2022, 09:38 PM | #10 |
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I have car play in my '21, and have never used it. It's annoying. You have to switch from it back to the the original iDrive set up to access car settings, ect.
Also, BMW maps are so more intuitive with car than Apple Maps.
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Agreed and what is confusing is that both AA and CarPlay wireless use a combo of Bluetooth and WiFi. Bluetooth has specific profiles but WiFi outside of the frequency is universal and the device just needs to support the frequency to connect. At least in the case of AA it requires a 5GHz frequency. Not sure how a software update is going to enable that if the chip doesn't support it in the first place.
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Agreed as played with AA and Google maps which is superior to Apple maps but the BMW navigation is more intuitive regardless of AA integration into the HUD on my M850i.
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05-06-2022, 09:54 PM | #14 |
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Could be worse. Audi is shipping $60k+ cars without keyless entry. Ummm, no sale.
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Yeah, it's likely just a matter of drivers if they are able to enable these features after the fact. New SoC, maybe Broadcom WiFi instead of Atheros or Marvell what not.
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CarPlay is proof that god loves us. I could never live without CarPlay
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I have Waze as well but it's alerts, etc. come throught the JBV1 app (sources via the Waze APIs) on my Android phone with integration to my V1 Gen2. Never use it from a maps/navigation perspective but rely on it for "sneaky police", accidents, etc.
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Waiting for that to hit BMW. Some UK members on our 8-series thread reported issues with getting the power/memory seats (also chip aka FPU related) but thankfully that didn't last long and never became an overall issue.
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Whenever all this does end, or something new normalizes, the market for these stripped down cars is going to be weird. They'll continue to circulate and people will buy them, but I have to think their values will be lower relative to the way you'd normally expect them to depreciate. And that's even crazier when you consider how much they're getting for them when sold as new.
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