[qballis]

Originally Posted by sl0m0

It seems that you were on bad terms with arrowhead bmw due to your impatients with your m3 allocation, and then your contact info got handed to the biggest douche of a CA when the M2 hea came in.... That's sort of how it goes if you don't build a relationship with a CA.

The biggest douche is who gets any possible contact information of anyone that doesn't already have an established relationship with a CA.

The 2nd screenshot you posted seems to be the response you got after you tried to back out of your m3 deposit just because it took longer than you expected to get an allocation, but you willingly signed a commitment. Unfortunately that is something that CA would have needed the GM to be back in the country for.

I don't think the avg member of this group would have a similar experience as you, especially if they did their hw and found a quality CA.

They got you for the $800 LoJack too huh?

[sl0m0]

Originally Posted by qballis

They got you for the $800 LoJack too huh?

Hasn't been mentioned, and I never signed anything including it, and if it comes up I will point out that I have a better service for free directly from bmw. So I'm not worried about it.

[JustinHEMI]

It's possible arrowhead is just deterring out if state flippers. Here's what I was just told.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

It's possible arrowhead is just deterring out if state flippers. Here's what I was just told.

Lmfao

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Honestly, I don't know if it's required because I wanted a ceramic package anyway. They didn't present it as mandatory to me. I haven't gotten any other ultimatums or hard sells from them, so it would seem out of character. But dealers are weird and sometimes draw red lines in unexpected places.

You should at least get an idea of what product they use. If it's not a reputable coating like gtechniq, bat it away. I got a 5 year coating from a place local to me for $1,100 - and that included complete paint correction.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

It's possible arrowhead is just deterring out if state flippers. Here's what I was just told.

100-105k? What a clown. Wish I got a text like that so I could reply GFYS.

[M3WC]

$105k for a M2....LMAO.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by Tag

100-105k? What a clown. Wish I got a text like that so I could reply GFYS.

Yeah just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but I think there's plenty of evidence of their pride in their M2s. Lol

[DrJLag420]

I’ll plug BMW of Birmingham for ‘The Good’.

Bought my M240 back in March ‘22. Was on the lot for a couple days. I went for test drive on Saturday morn. Thought about it over the rest of the weekend (closed on Sunday) Bought on Monday. MSRP. No BS. CA was helpful and easy to work with.

Put down a $1k refundable deposit once the M2 info dropped in the beginning of June ‘22. First on list. MSRP.

Saw that they had an M2 on Friday. Booked an appointment to check it out on Saturday morning. Didn’t know they were gonna let me test drive it as they know I want a manual in BG. The M2 they received is ZF8 in ZB. Took it for a ride for about 10 miles. Their typical loop.

No ADM on this M2. I asked just to make sure.

As of right now, looks like it’s still available (136 views since Friday).

[sl0m0]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

It's possible arrowhead is just deterring out if state flippers. Here's what I was just told.

I reached out today. It seems that since these 2 are "50th anniversary" someone thinks there might be a buyer that will value that enough. I'm pretty sure it's to test the waters and will change. Allocations are at MSRP though.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

It's possible arrowhead is just deterring out if state flippers. Here's what I was just told.

Was told by an out of state BMW dealer that it was "saving" its M2 allocation for local customers. Just straight up. No crazy ADM or anything.

I responded something like thanks for letting me know. But if a local doesn't come forward and you want to sell a car give me a call. But I was going to continue my search so I might already have a car if you wait too long.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Was told by an out of state BMW dealer that it was "saving" its M2 allocation for local customers. Just straight up. No crazy ADM or anything.

I responded something like thanks for letting me know. But if a local doesn't come forward and you want to sell a car give me a call. But I was going to continue my search so I might already have a car if you wait too long.

My dealer also has an "MSRP for locals" stance to deter out of state flippers.

[mzimand]

I just came from a dealership in So Cal that is asking $25K ADM.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

My dealer also has an "MSRP for locals" stance to deter out of state flippers.

Don't recall flipping being mentioned in my talks. I'm not a flipper just want an M2 (or an M240). So happens I think I happened into a M2.

However, I emailed the sales manager at the dealer asking now that the BMW track my vehicle shows the car at the dealer when can I come up and complete the purchase. No response but it has just been an hour since I sent the email so I don't think I've been ghosted yet.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by mzimand

I just came from a dealership in So Cal that is asking $25K ADM.

Which dealershit....I mean dealership!

[LVI]

i know of a BG 6MT car available today at $2K over in the north east. i was going to buy it but i decided to wait for my order (in a different color). $25K+ over is ridiculous.

What is surprising is that a lot of folks are passing on these HEA cars, particularly the ZB cars. A lot fewer BG cars available from my anecdotal observations.

[mzimand]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

Which dealershit....I mean dealership!

Mckenna

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by mzimand

I just came from a dealership in So Cal that is asking $25K ADM.

Extremely large cajones.

[akhbhaat]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

My dealer also has an "MSRP for locals" stance to deter out of state flippers.

I'm wondering if at least some dealerships slapped large ADMs on their HEA cars (specifically) to deter anybody from buying them...for now.

This way, they can try to keep them around long enough to serve their intended purpose (as test drive mules/demonstrators; build a pipeline of demand and orders/deposits), but if some idiot really wants to pay an outrageous markup for a canned spec on a mass produced car that won't be hard to get, that's on them. Win-win for the dealership.

Why not just mark them "not for sale" entirely? Best guess: a lot of them are also corporate shops with limited flexibility to work around their own policies. Or, as above, they don't really mind selling it but want to maximize the profit that one particular can bring, one way or another.

People love to hate on dealerships for good reason but they're not all bad; I simply don't assume good or bad intention until I get to the table. I've had Porsche dealerships pull bait-and-switch games with huge last minute ADMs after discussing MSRP orders months in advance...but then on the other hand, I was picking up a car from one Porsche dealership and my bank was being incredibly fussy about a wire transfer, so they decided to eat a huge credit card merchant fee on $20k down payment simply so I could take the car home that day (plus I got a ton of points). They had a signed contract already, so there was no reason they actually had to do that. Obviously they still made plenty of money on the car, but better yet, they won my recurring business and are the only dealership in the region I now work with...never mind all the people I've referred their way.

Treating your customer well is just smart business.

[F87inJAX]

Originally Posted by akhbhaat

I'm wondering if at least some dealerships slapped large ADMs on their HEA cars (specifically) to deter anybody from buying them...for now.

Yeah, my dealership is just saying they aren’t for sale right now. I didn’t ask when they would be, since their HEAs aren’t my spec. The CA I test drove with was surprised when I told him dealerships are selling their HEAs on day 1. Not sure why that surprised him. He was also surprised to hear some dealerships weren’t allowing test drives or wanted some sort of deposit before they’d allow a test drive. This dealership seems to be pretty chill.

[akhbhaat]

Originally Posted by F87inJAX

He was also surprised to hear some dealerships weren’t allowing test drives or wanted some sort of deposit before they’d allow a test drive. This dealership seems to be pretty chill.

Yup...any competent dealership/salesman should be surprised by that. Much better to use your HEA to get as many excited buyers and deposits in the funnel as possible. There are also the network effects...test drive excites buyer A, who tells prospective buyer B (their friend etc), who then also drives it and puts in a deposit. Test drives are what really sell these cars, not YouTube reviews and forum posts...the group that reads and posts here and is willing to take that chance is very small, comparatively.

Otherwise, you're getting a lot of buyers who won't hesitate to pull their deposits for any number of reasons, because it's all in the abstract. Exhibit A: Lotus Emira. Very few cars (GT3/GT4 come to mind) can be consistently sold purely on reputation alone (and even then...as a now-former 718 GT4 owner, I have some regrets about replacing my 981 with a 718 without driving one first).

[mynameisnick4]

Originally Posted by akhbhaat

Yup...any competent dealership/salesman should be surprised by that. Much better to use your HEA to get as many excited buyers and deposits in the funnel as possible. There are also the network effects...test drive excites buyer A, who tells prospective buyer B (their friend etc), who then also drives it and puts in a deposit. Test drives are what really sell these cars, not YouTube reviews and forum posts...the group that reads and posts here and is willing to take that chance is very small, comparatively.

Otherwise, you're getting a lot of buyers who won't hesitate to pull their deposits for any number of reasons, because it's all in the abstract. Exhibit A: Lotus Emira. Very few cars (GT3/GT4 come to mind) can be consistently sold purely on reputation alone (and even then...as a now-former 718 GT4 owner, I have some regrets about replacing my 981 with a 718 without driving one first).

The problem I see with that process is the wait time to actually get a car. If someone pulls up to a dealer and test drives an M2 HEA car and decides they want one, they are looking at what, a 1 year wait at best to get a delivered car?

I feel like type of person to be enticed to buy a car based off a HEA test drive isn't going to want to wait that long. I guess you could say the HEA car would lure people in but then sell them something else. I don't know, maybe I am underestimating the patience of your average car buyer.