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      06-15-2022, 01:50 AM   #199
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      06-15-2022, 08:58 AM   #201
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      06-15-2022, 03:16 PM   #202
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Short interior video on Instagram via BMW Blog. FYI, It has everyone’s favorite seats in it. Total sarcasm! https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ce1iP...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Note, the manual seats. Highly doubtful that the U.S. will get manual seats.

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      06-15-2022, 05:31 PM   #203
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Short interior video on Instagram via BMW Blog. FYI, It has everyone's favorite seats in it. Total sarcasm! https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ce1iP...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Note, the manual seats. Highly doubtful that the U.S. will get manual seats.



Aesthetics aside, they do look hella comfortable, with easily ingress and egress due to the deflatable side bolsters..

I guess currently best way to test how they'll feel is to go sit in a available G42 2 Series, while wearing some alcantara pants.. 😗


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Sorry, those La-Z-Boy cheap seats don't sit well with me.

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      06-15-2022, 07:38 PM   #205
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Sorry, those La-Z-Boy cheap seats don't sit well with me.

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These seats are flagrantly unattractive to subliminally scold any M2 customer who doesn't want to throw down an extra $3,800 for the more palatable Carbon Bucket option..

Sort of how they used to identify unfaithful women in the Salem witch period, by branding them with a scarlet "A" across their chest. These fugly seats are the same concept because it's an instant beacon to be cast and ridiculed by the contemporary townspeople or peers at Cars & Coffee because of its more grotesque design.. 😗

This is just my opinion, I could be wrong..
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      06-16-2022, 12:15 AM   #206
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These seats are flagrantly unattractive to subliminally scold any M2 customer who doesn't want to throw down an extra $3,800 for the more palatable Carbon Bucket option..

Sort of how they used to identify unfaithful women in the Salem witch period, by branding them with a scarlet "A" across their chest. These fugly seats are the same concept because it's an instant beacon to be cast and ridiculed by the contemporary townspeople or peers at Cars & Coffee because of its more grotesque design.. 😗

This is just my opinion, I could be wrong..
No, you're 100% on point here. Well said. Seats are dreadful
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Short interior video on Instagram via BMW Blog. FYI, It has everyone’s favorite seats in it. Total sarcasm! https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ce1iP...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Note, the manual seats. Highly doubtful that the U.S. will get manual seats.
US will get those seats but fully electric. Same exact thing they did with non-comp F87(OG).



Euro non-Comp F87




US non-Comp F87


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I am just a little underwhelmed with this M2, don't like the grill, to me it's not BMW, should have been like the M4, just a bit smaller maybe. Have a contract signed with my dealer for one so to be first cab off the rank, but feel that BMW could have done so much more with this M2's appearence.

If 90% of the car is coming from the M3 & M4 I cannot believe that more of a statement could have been on the exterior. They state its wider than the standard 2 series coupe and the wheel base is different as well.

If not for the rondel on the bonnet you would not pick it as a BMW, wonder how long it will take for some aftermarket company to come up with a grill replacement, reminds me of a dodge or something just cannot place my finger on what car this is similar too?.
Anyway that's my feelings, probably should get a M4?
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I am just a little underwhelmed with this M2, don't like the grill, to me it's not BMW, should have been like the M4, just a bit smaller maybe. Have a contract signed with my dealer for one so to be first cab off the rank, but feel that BMW could have done so much more with this M2's appearence.
So glad it doesn't have the hideous vertical tombstone grills of the M4. Awful beyond belief.
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      06-16-2022, 12:49 AM   #210
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I am just a little underwhelmed with this M2, don't like the grill, to me it's not BMW, should have been like the M4, just a bit smaller maybe. Have a contract signed with my dealer for one so to be first cab off the rank, but feel that BMW could have done so much more with this M2's appearence.

If 90% of the car is coming from the M3 & M4 I cannot believe that more of a statement could have been on the exterior. They state its wider than the standard 2 series coupe and the wheel base is different as well.

If not for the rondel on the bonnet you would not pick it as a BMW, wonder how long it will take for some aftermarket company to come up with a grill replacement, reminds me of a dodge or something just cannot place my finger on what car this is similar too?.
Anyway that's my feelings, probably should get a M4?
This is a first. Someone that wants the G8x grill on this car.

Proof that you can't please everyone.
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      06-16-2022, 06:48 AM   #211
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you cant even see the full grill in these camo images - bet you it looks really good and everyone with G80/G82 ends up wanting this design for the M3/m4 LCI
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you cant even see the full grill in these camo images - bet you it looks really good and everyone with G80/G82 ends up wanting this design for the M3/m4 LCI
Different shape and silhouette. Designs cues from one don't necessarily work on the other.
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Performance wise it doesn't seem like it will be a huge upgrade over an M2 comp with BM3 tune.
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      06-16-2022, 04:25 PM   #215
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you cant even see the full grill in these camo images - bet you it looks really good and everyone with G80/G82 ends up wanting this design for the M3/m4 LCI
Production front bumper with kidney grille and rear bumper have already been posted.
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Performance wise it doesn't seem like it will be a huge upgrade over an M2 comp with BM3 tune.
So what happens when you tune the G87?
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So what happens when you tune the G87?
So in one of the articles that has been posted, it says 0-60 for the ZF M2 is 4.2 seconds and the manual 4.5 seconds. How is it possible that is slower to 60 than an F87 M2C?
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So in one of the articles that has been posted, it says 0-60 for the ZF M2 is 4.2 seconds and the manual 4.5 seconds. How is it possible that is slower to 60 than an F87 M2C?
Wait, what article? There are no official performance figures yet. Are you sure those aren't just estimates that are used as placeholders?
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So in one of the articles that has been posted, it says 0-60 for the ZF M2 is 4.2 seconds and the manual 4.5 seconds. How is it possible that is slower to 60 than an F87 M2C?
There are no official numbers out there.
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Wait, what article? There are no official performance figures yet. Are you sure those aren't just estimates that are used as placeholders?
It's in this article: https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...3ck8fHa.S3fpgi

However, nothing official from BMW.
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