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      04-11-2024, 07:45 PM   #4401
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"Nobody" cares about the physics regarding accelerative vehicle performance or mechanical engineering in general on a BMW M website?

Who do you think designs these cars and what methods do you think they employ in doing so?
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Idk why this mechanical engineer is trying to belittle everyone here lol you have to be pretty successful to be buying an M2…
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Idk why this mechanical engineer is trying to belittle everyone here lol you have to be pretty successful to be buying an M2…
don't forget "published" mechanical engineer with patents...he has patents.
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Idk why this mechanical engineer is trying to belittle everyone here lol you have to be pretty successful to be buying an M2…


I have no skin in this game as I’m having my popcorn on the sideline…. But food for thought, the person he’s belittling doesn’t own a G87…
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Idk why this mechanical engineer is trying to belittle everyone here lol you have to be pretty successful to be buying an M2…
It's just an incel using ChatGPT to post 'multi patent holding mechanical design engineer' questions.
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I'm a multi patent holding mechanical design engineer, sir and have been published in a host of automotive magazines and newspapers. Having stated that, I'd like you to explain to us all what dictates the tractive force that moves a vehicle at any given speed.

A simple sentence will suffice, though I'd really prefer mathematical proofs. I'm ready to go on that front from two different perspectives, including text book physics. I'll even give you a hint for the simple sentence option: Just three variables needed for a complete answer, not one of which is engine torque.

The mathematical proof option is of course vastly more complex and goes way beyond build date information.

Looking forward to your reply, sir.

Many more automotive engineering questions are queued and ready to roll out...Can't wait for the fun to begin.
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      04-11-2024, 08:03 PM   #4411
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Not just hot air, also loads of arrogance.
The pinnacle of arrogance is accusing others who's questions you can't actually answer of being arrogant.

Further complicating the matter is that fact that EARNED arrogance is entirely different than arrogance by default.

Fact of the matter is that you're incapable of responding on any engineering related level. So in order to remain "the top man" on here, you resorted to name calling while believing everyone else on the site will go along with it. That is not taking the high road.

Again, owners manuals, build dates and other 8th grade study hall level factoids are entirely meaningless in the world of automotive engineering and the irrefutable mathematical and physical proofs on which it's based.

Once again and with all due respect: In a simple sentence, explain to me what dictates tractive force at any given vehicle speed. (Suggestion: Don't bother me, make me look bad though name calling and then post the rolling eyes emoticon.

In the unlikely event of your being able to properly respond to that, I'll queue m follow-up question in advance:

Question 2: Whyisn't tractive force a first order determinant of vehicle acceleration?

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Arrogance and well earned true knowledge are very different things, sir.

Fact of the matter is that you're incapable of responding as I've asked. So in order to remain "the top man," you resort to name calling while as least believing everyone else on the site will go along with it.

Again, owners manuals, build dates and other 8th grade study hall level silliness is entirely meaningless in the world of automotive engineering and the irrefutable mathematical and physical proofs that support it.

The peak of arrogance is accusing others who are vastly more knowledgeable of being arrogant.

AGAIN: In a simple sentence, explain to me what dictates tractive force at any given vehicle speed. (Suggestion: Don't bother me, make me look bad though name calling and then post the rolling eyes emoticon.
ChatGPT right on time.
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Arrogance and well earned true knowledge are very different things, sir.

Fact of the matter is that you're incapable of responding as I've asked. So in order to remain "the top man," you resort to name calling while as least believing everyone else on the site will go along with it.

Again, owners manuals, build dates and other 8th grade study hall level silliness is entirely meaningless in the world of automotive engineering and the irrefutable mathematical and physical proofs that support it.

The peak of arrogance is accusing others who are vastly more knowledgeable of being arrogant.

AGAIN: In a simple sentence, explain to me what dictates tractive force at any given vehicle speed. (Suggestion: Don't bother me, make me look bad though name calling and then post the rolling eyes emoticon.
weren't you the guy who argued that the 2025 model wasn't going to have a 20HP but actually a 21HP pump? You that little that you had to argue over 1 HP or how it's actually calculated? You want to be that guy?
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I have no skin in this game as I’m having my popcorn on the sideline…. But food for thought, the person he’s belittling doesn’t own a G87…
Out of curiosity what do they own? Lol
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Out of curiosity what do they own? Lol
I don’t know, but I agree it’s as irrelevant as the engineering question to the discussion lol just loading up the popcorn lol
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ChatGPT right on time.
What grade are you in? Really? Have you ever been published in ANYTHING? What degrees do you hold and what patents do you have?

You posted a rolling eye response for no good reason while assuming I'm going to sit back and take it.

I am not nor should anyone else.

Please answer my specific engineering related questions or I'll permanently block you.

Your choice, Boba. (Note: "Star Wars" fantasy physics won't suffice in answering my technical questions.)
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weren't you the guy who argued that the 2025 model wasn't going to have a 20HP but actually a 21HP pump? You that little that you had to argue over 1 HP or how it's actually calculated? You want to be that guy?
I didn't claim it. Rather, I posted the links from two well respected third party sources that did.

Can you see the difference in that, "Ronin?"

Now go ahead and answer the tractive force related questions I've posed to another member on here by interfering.

You two are clearly the super smart auto experts and I just need to reassured in the mathematics and physical proofs by relying on smarter folks such as yourselves.

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I didn't claim it. Rather, I posted the links from two well respected third party sources that did.

Can you see the difference in that, "Ronin?"
the point is, its 1 HP...does it matter whether its 20 or 21?
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I assume you mean me, but I was just adding information…

I was trying to understand where all this engineering talk came from, I remember you’re an engineer yourself, and even without a G87 you mentioned the physics principle that moves rocks from the ground to hit radiators, I’m not sure if it’s related to the engineering question posed on this thread, maybe it’s the same answer:

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=30790948
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I didn't claim it. Rather, I posted the links from two well respected third party sources that did.

Can you see the difference in that, "Ronin?"
You were out to lunch on that one man… almost like you didn’t read what you posted lol

I posted the figures and you kept chasing back with links to magazines and stuff
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Nope.

What grade are you in? Really?

You posted a rolling ever response ad then think I'm going to let it stand.

Answer my specific engineering related questions or I'll permanently block you.

Your choice, Boba. (Note: "Star Wars" fantasy physics won't suffice in answering my technical questions.)
Mind tricks only work on the weak minded.

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the point is, its 1 HP...does it matter whether its 20 or 21?
1 HP in a currently 453 HP (advertised) engine equates to a 0.2208% difference. No car could drive if individual component production tolerances were anything remotely close to that.

So yes it matters. That's actually a very large deviation from the baseline in anything remotely resembling what's required in the scientific and engineering fields.

Hey, which cartoons have you watched this week so far?
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