[robopp]

Originally Posted by Tag

Even if it was something in the road my point stands. The fact that anyone finds it an acceptable risk that running over something in the road that on 99% cars would cause little to no damage on could potentially destroy your engine is absurd.

#DesignFlaw

Putting radiators on the front must be a design flaw too.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=30489711

Where do you propose BMW put the oil cooler? There are only so many places and all are vulnerable.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by xps

I actually went back to trace out, I see a huge puddle of oil at the place where I was parked to wait for tow truck, i would say 4x4 ft. And the dealer showed me about a 1-1.5quart they drained out from the engine. So I think due to the size of the puncture, and the engine running the oil must have squirted out 3-4qt before the engine was turned off.

I’m really sorry this happened to you and I hope it all works out for you. You should be out driving around your new M2.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by robopp

Putting radiators on the front must be a design flaw too.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=30489711

Where do you propose BMW put the oil cooler? There are only so many places and all are vulnerable.

Putting on any radiator/HE without any protection, as on the G87, is the design flaw. I said this previously in this thread, guess you missed that too.

[kyrix1st]

I mean, G82 M4 has mesh grilles on all its front holes (the ones without carbon exterior pack,) so the mesh themselves shouldn't do too much harm on the G87 that shares the exact same components.

[T4dey]

Originally Posted by IM2C

Out of stock

In stock at Bimmer world.
Ordered and already shipped today.

[KC87ZB]

The puddle under the car theory is not a good one.

We don't know when the puncture under the car happened and oil at 40 psi (not sure what this engine is), is ejected quickly even through a small hole. Most of the OP's oil is up the road from where he parked. Just need enough oil loss to starve the pickup and you've lost the bottom end at a minimum.

This is a true tragedy for the OP; I think BMW should have provided a bit of protection around the oil cooler specifically as there is no real warning until it is almost catastrophic.

[M2siast]

I don’t know why our cars don’t have that rubber flap under the bumper, and European cars do… I’m wondering if that can help deflect debris.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I don’t know why our cars don’t have that rubber flap under the bumper, and European cars do… I’m wondering if that can help deflect debris.

Car needs all the protection it can get lol

[xps]

Originally Posted by robopp

I’m really sorry this happened to you and I hope it all works out for you. You should be out driving around your new M2.

I know right. Had plans to be driving around during the Christmas break. Even order carbon fiber mirror caps.

Lol, now my family did not even get to see the car yet because it went from the dealership I bought it in NY to the local MI dealership that it is sitting with a blown engine.

[xps]

Originally Posted by aerobod

In this particular case, there is no way a single small item hitting in the front damage area could then move downwards then up again (magically changing it's momentum without input from another surface) to re-impact slightly further back, just simply physics in that case, too. Going by the roundness of the tube distortion, it may not even be a rock, perhaps something more like a pronged metal object.

Doesn't mean to say extra protection isn't advisable, but this damage does not seem consistent with just a small rock from off the road surface.

My theory is it was a rectangular object which would mean it hit the 1st spot along it's length then it spinner it upwards hitting the 2nd spot harder piercing through. Also note that there is only 1 hole not 2

[Tag]

Originally Posted by xps

My theory is it was a rectangular object which would mean it hit the 1st spot along it's length then it spinner it upwards hitting the 2nd spot harder piercing through. Also note that there is only 1 hole not 2

Do you remember hearing anything hit under the car?

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I don’t know why our cars don’t have that rubber flap under the bumper, and European cars do… I’m wondering if that can help deflect debris.

I would get it just because I think it makes the front look better.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Tag

I would get it just because I think it makes the front look better.

What’s the part number on that guy?

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by robopp

Oil levels and pressure are monitored constantly. 7.4 quarts of oil(1.85 gallons) doesn’t just disappear.

A parralel radiator is a lot less vulnerable than a perpendicular one. Radiators need access to ambient, you can’t cover them up without negative effects.

You also assume this was a rock. It might have been a piece of steel that would have ripped through any screen in place.

I'll say the ZunSport screen I installed is fairly stout. It would take a lot to "rip" through it and damage then damage the cooler, imo.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

I'll say the ZunSport screen I installed is fairly stout. It would take a lot to "rip" through it and damage then damage the cooler, imo.

Can't speak in any proven manner but an impact with a fist size rock or hunk of steel with the car travelling at 60-80mph...good luck. I hope for the best...

[xps]

Originally Posted by Tag

Do you remember hearing anything hit under the car?

Not a bit. Don't remember seeing anything on the road or hearing any sound. My faint memory tells me that someone back in the traffic honked, was totally unaware why at that movement, but now it may be because my car was splashing oil over them.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Can't speak in any proven manner but an impact with a fist size rock or hunk of steel with the car travelling at 60-80mph...good luck. I hope for the best...

Perhaps. You could also install a couple spacers on the bolts/screws to create a little space between the grille & the cooler which may help deflect debris that hits the grille.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M2siast

What’s the part number on that guy?

PM me your VIN, that way I can be sure it's the right part number. I remember the PN for EU and US cars was different. Don't know if CA shares the same PN as US. Or give me the VIN to any CA car...

[Tag]

Originally Posted by xps

Not a bit. Don't remember seeing anything on the road or hearing any sound. My faint memory tells me that someone back in the traffic honked, was totally unaware why at that movement, but now it may be because my car was splashing oil over them.

Those fools, little did they know you had activated the oil slick button to shake off the cops that were in pursuit.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Tag

Those fools, little did they know you had activated the oil slick button to shake off the cops that were in pursuit.

Holy oil slicks, Batman!

[xps]

Update:

got a quote for 38k for the engine and another 8k for the turbos. Dealer said there nothing anyone would do on the BMW side, my only option is insurance, which is what I guessed.

So what are my options? My insurance said this will be a collision damage claim according to their books and since MI is a no-fault state, this makes no difference whose fault it is. So my premiums are going to be affected.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by xps

Update:

got a quote for 38k for the engine and another 8k for the turbos. Dealer said there nothing anyone would do on the BMW side, my only option is insurance, which is what I guessed.

So what are my options? My insurance said this will be a collision damage claim according to their books and since MI is a no-fault state, this makes no difference whose fault it is. So my premiums are going to be affected.

What's the threshold for insurance to total the car?