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      11-04-2022, 10:56 PM   #881
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This radiator is going to be destroyed many times over being exposed like this.
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This radiator is going to be destroyed many times over being exposed like this.
Warranty will not cover it either. “Act of God or Mother Nature”
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This radiator is going to be destroyed many times over being exposed like this.
Warranty will not cover it either. “Act of God or Mother Nature”
Hopefully "Radiator Grill Store (RGS)" comes up with a solution
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Warranty will not cover it either. “Act of God or Mother Nature”
why would they make the radiator like that
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Radiator? Or intercooler?
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I wonder why some G87’s have a plastic grille in front of it.
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Hopefully "Radiator Grill Store (RGS)" comes up with a solution
The possible problem with that is in the event of a cooling issue under the factory warranty, a warranty claim could potentially be denied.


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why would they make the radiator like that
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I wonder why some G87’s have a plastic grille in front of it.
I have noticed that as well.

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I wonder why some G87's have a plastic grille in front of it.
I can't see that having any practical purpose, so it's probably a design elements, so that shiny, sliver radiator is not as conspicuous, due to its open-grille style.
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I wonder why some G87's have a plastic grille in front of it.
I can't see that having any practical purpose, so it's probably a design elements, so that shiny, sliver radiator is not as conspicuous, due to its open-grille style.
Those gapping holes are begging for some sort of mesh grill for intercooler protection. Wonder if installing one if/when available aftermarket if it will void some warranty.
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I pointed out the absence of these lower grills I believe in 2021 LOL. Was hoping it was just the prototypes missing them.
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I pointed out the absence of these lower grills I believe in 2021 LOL. Was hoping it was just the prototypes missing them.
My CSL (very open) already has dings in the rad/cooler with only 350km on the odo, manufacturers don't seem to care for longevity anymore, It will be ugly after 2-3 track days...
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I wonder why some G87's have a plastic grille in front of it.
I can't see that having any practical purpose, so it's probably a design elements, so that shiny, sliver radiator is not as conspicuous, due to its open-grille style.
Those gapping holes are begging for some sort of mesh grill for intercooler protection. Wonder if installing one if/when available aftermarket if it will void some warranty.
I'm sure BMW doesn't really care since they are disclaimed from any potential road hazard damage - that's more of a you problem, after you take delivery of the vehicle and operate it on the public roads..

And manufacturers warranty are tricky, any aftermarket shield/mesh which be construed as a hinderance of air flow can potentially cause a denial of any coverage.
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I wonder why some G87's have a plastic grille in front of it.
I can't see that having any practical purpose, so it's probably a design elements, so that shiny, sliver radiator is not as conspicuous, due to its open-grille style.
Those gapping holes are begging for some sort of mesh grill for intercooler protection. Wonder if installing one if/when available aftermarket if it will void some warranty.
I'm sure BMW doesn't really care since they are disclaimed from any potential road hazard damage - that's more of a you problem, after you take delivery of the vehicle and operate it on the public roads..

And manufacturers warranty are tricky, any aftermarket shield/mesh which be construed as a hinderance of air flow can potentially cause a denial of any coverage.
Hopefully there is a solution that can be easily installed and removed in case a warranty visit needs to be made.
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I wonder why some G87's have a plastic grille in front of it.
I can't see that having any practical purpose, so it's probably a design elements, so that shiny, sliver radiator is not as conspicuous, due to its open-grille style.
Those gapping holes are begging for some sort of mesh grill for intercooler protection. Wonder if installing one if/when available aftermarket if it will void some warranty.
I'm sure BMW doesn't really care since they are disclaimed from any potential road hazard damage - that's more of a you problem, after you take delivery of the vehicle and operate it on the public roads..

And manufacturers warranty are tricky, any aftermarket shield/mesh which be construed as a hinderance of air flow can potentially cause a denial of any coverage.
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I'm sure BMW doesn't really care since they are disclaimed from any potential road hazard damage - that's more of a you problem, after you take delivery of the vehicle and operate it on the public roads..

And manufacturers warranty are tricky, any aftermarket shield/mesh which be construed as a hinderance of air flow can potentially cause a denial of any coverage.


Sounds eerily similar to what I have previously stated 4-6+ times.


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Hopefully there is a solution that can be easily installed and removed in case a warranty visit needs to be made.
All it takes is one service visit with something like this affixed and a tech notes it on a R.O. It will then be permanently entered internally and associated with the VIN.

I do not think anyone wants to remove something like this every time they go in for service. Typically they have to be R&I from the backside which requires R&I of the plastic under trays.

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I wonder why some G87's have a plastic grille in front of it.
I can't see that having any practical purpose, so it's probably a design elements, so that shiny, sliver radiator is not as conspicuous, due to its open-grille style.
Those gapping holes are begging for some sort of mesh grill for intercooler protection. Wonder if installing one if/when available aftermarket if it will void some warranty.
I'm sure BMW doesn't really care since they are disclaimed from any potential road hazard damage - that's more of a you problem, after you take delivery of the vehicle and operate it on the public roads..

And manufacturers warranty are tricky, any aftermarket shield/mesh which be construed as a hinderance of air flow can potentially cause a denial of any coverage.
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Such is life.. 😏

If the unfortunate does happen and your radiator or oil pan gets punctured, more than likely there will be some collateral damage also, so an insurance claim would be warranted.

I would obviously never do such thing as bending the truth with my insurance company and such because I'm trying to get into heaven 😉 but I heard that if you let your insurance company know that the damage was cause by "airborne objects" striking your vehicle, as oppose with your vehicle colliding with road debris, it's considered a "comprehensive" claim as oppose to a "collision" incident. Huge rating difference, since comprehensive claims can't be surcharged and is classified as a "not at fault" incident. #TheMoreYouKnow
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Such is life.. 😏

If the unfortunate does happen and your radiator or oil pan gets punctured, more than likely there will be some collateral damage also, so an insurance claim would be warranted.

I would obviously never do such thing as bending the truth with my insurance company and such because I'm trying to get into heaven 😉 but I heard that if you let your insurance company know that the damage was cause by "airborne objects" striking your vehicle, as oppose with your vehicle colliding with road debris, it's considered a "comprehensive" claim as oppose to a "collision" incident. Huge rating difference, since comprehensive claims can't be surcharged and is classified as a "not at fault" incident. #TheMoreYouKnow
I mean technically the road debris has to be in the air and it's an object
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Such is life.. 😏

If the unfortunate does happen and your radiator or oil pan gets punctured, more than likely there will be some collateral damage also, so an insurance claim would be warranted.

I would obviously never do such thing as bending the truth with my insurance company and such because I'm trying to get into heaven 😉 but I heard that if you let your insurance company know that the damage was cause by "airborne objects" striking your vehicle, as oppose with your vehicle colliding with road debris, it's considered a "comprehensive" claim as oppose to a "collision" incident. Huge rating difference, since comprehensive claims can't be surcharged and is classified as a "not at fault" incident. #TheMoreYouKnow
I mean technically the road debris has to be in the air and it's an object
I get that but in the insurance world, exactly how you state your claim can make or break you. There is an important distinction in if debris few off a truck, then you hit it or didn't try to avoid it, they could classify this incident as an at fault Collision claim.

However, If lets say a meteorite fell out from space, change trajectory, then flew into your radiator causing damage, then this event would be beyond your control, thus, would be considered not-at-fault Comprehensive incident.

Or so I heard 😗

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I get that but in the insurance world, exactly how you state your claim can make or break you. There is an important distinction in if debris few off a truck, then you hit it or didn't try to avoid it, they could classify this incident as an at fault Collision claim.

However, If lets say a meteorite fell out from space, change trajectory, then flew into your radiator causing damage, then this event would be beyond your control, thus, would be considered not-at-fault Comprehensive incident.

Or so I heard 😗
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Geico has "mechanical breakdown" insurance which would cover this. I'm sure others offer something similar.
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On the subject of the unprotected radiator and the large openings on the front bumper cover. eman4517 for photo credit.
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