[civic79]

Hi..
JB3 VS V3 ..
which one is best ? safety , high hp , easy control ,update , etc...
plz recommend..

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

To a large degree the difference between them comes down to your needs are and what value you find in certain features. The JB3 is setup with many purchase options to give you maximum flexibility and value.

For example one of the JB3 packages includes a BT cable which allows access to codes, freeze frame data, and logging from ALL modules on the CANbus. Some may be happy simply reading a decimal number and converting it to HEX, while others may want all the available freeze frame data, description, triggers, etc. That particular package is $499 or $699 depending on the harness type.

Another JB3 package (JB3 Pin Out) is geared towards the budget minded and gives you all of the tuning benefits of the JB3 brand new for $349. The drawback being an extra 20 minutes of install time.

You also have the option to add the N54s most popular air intake, the BMS DCI, for $100 when buying a JB3.

There are over 1500 JB3s in use in the field now, and it’s proven itself time and time again in terms of performance and reliability. Another great thing is that BMS is continually developing new mapping, software, and features. For example with our upcoming (free) 2.0 software you will be able to datalog, adjust tuning parameters, and load maps/firmware through a USB cable. It’s truly awesome the lengths BMS goes to in terms of keeping the JB3 on the forefront of N54 tuning.

Mike

[Kelvin1000]

[NiVeDh]

I can't believe you've done this.

[battlehawk1025]

:e vil::evi l:
let the flaming begin

[Gen_E92]

IBTL

[A418t81]

Whichever one suits your own personal tastes the best.

[Craig@SupremePower]

in before the close!!

[Kroy]

Originally Posted by Craig@SupremePower

in before the close!!

+1 you beat me to it.

[HPFREAK]

this could get interesting

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by civic79

Hi..
JB3 VS V3 ..
which one is best ? safety , high hp , easy control ,update , etc...
plz recommend..

Power is simply a matter of running as much boost as you can get away with while keeping ignition advance high. Both tunes are capable of doing this. But the Procede does it in a safer way since it proactively adjusts ignition advance. It also offers the ability to monitor actual ignition advance so you can optimize your tune for absolute max power if that is what you want. It also monitors oil and water temps and adjusts the tune accordingly. So, in this respect, it is safer. And it's also laptop updateable (no chip burning required) so one can argue that it's easier to update. It also reads and clears diagnostic codes.

The jb3 doesn't offer ignition advance control, oil or water temp monitoring or laptop updateability or native diagnostic code reading/clearing abilities. But it is less expensive due to its hardware simplicity and feature list.

These are the facts. Pick your poison. Things don't always have to degrade into a flame war if only real facts at presented. If I've made any factual errors, please feel free to correct them.

Cheers
shiv

[xquizit]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Power is simply a matter of running as much boost as you can get away with whole keeping ignition advance high. Both tunes are capable of doing this. Buy the Procede does it in a safer way since it proactively adjusts igniton advance. It also offers the ability to monitor actual ignition advance so you can optimize your tune for absolute max power of that is what u want. It also monitors oil and water temps and adjusts the tune accordingly. So, in this respect, it is safer. And it's also laptop updatebable (no chip burning required) so one can argue that it's easier to update. It also reads and clears diagnostic codes.

The jb3 doesn't offer ignition advance control, oil or water temp monitoring or laptop updateability or native diagnostic code reading/clearing abilities. But it is less expensive due to it's hardware simplicity and feature list.

These are the facts. Pick your poison. Things don't always have to degrade into a flame war if only real facts at presented. If I've made any factual errors, please feel free to correct me.

Cheers
shiv

Much props for giving the OP a legit answer.

Stop the flame wars, and put away that Gucci flame suite OP.. you don't need it anymore!

[X.X.I.V]

put your hands together peeps another lazy noob who dosent know how to :
:c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p:

[RiXst3r]

Hopefully this thread stays on track, but history would show us that whenever someone asks this question, at some point the facts come out about each tune, but slowly people start to derail the thread with attacks, defensiveness, and fanboy crap... hopefully that doesn't happen.

The truth is, you need to decide what you want from a tune, and then based on the facts presented to you, decide if one tune can provide that for you better than another.

Good luck in your decision making!

-Rick

[Hit_Apex]

Price is another fact needed to stuff in your decision model. Just read as much as you can. The products are very close and it will come down to your personal tastes/preferences.

[bmwzimmer]

Both have their Pros and Con's. The good news is it's nice to have options. But do please do your own research since this forum is full of information.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by mario0573

put your hands together peeps another lazy noob who dosent know how to :
:c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p: :c lap::cla p:

The problem is that searches on this topic are essentially useless because the signal to noise ratio is usually so low. There is more flaming, misinformation and flat out partisan nonsense than actual facts/product details. Also, product details from months back don't really mean much now due to technical advances that happen on what seems to be a monthly basis. It would be nice if this thread can continue to be factual and less of a soap opera.

Shiv

[badass1g]

might as well ask if a ford or chevy is best. everyone will have different awnsers.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by badass1g

might as well ask if a ford or chevy is best. everyone will have different awnsers.

I don't think that's an ideal analogy because one of the two tunes is clearly more expensive, sophisticated and more fully featured than the other. It doesn't boil down to personal preference (Ford vs Chevy). It boils down to price sensitivity and whether the value of the the PROcede's additional features/flexibility is there for a particular buyer. Different people will have different needs.

Shiv

[jhershorin]

I am actually running the standback from CP-e. I prefer that over both because I can tune it myself and I know what's going on. I don't like relying on other people. I monitor knock and don't like how much the motor knocked on other systems.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by jhershorin

I am actually running the standback from CP-e. I prefer that over both because I can tune it myself and I know what's going on. I don't like relying on other people. I monitor knock and don't like how much the motor knocked on other systems.

Unless you can monitor CANbus data like actual throttle angle and actual ignition advance, I don't see how you can know what is going on.

Shiv

[XLR8MF]

Fact: I have had both and run the JB3.
I think the whole gestapo mentality is dumb that someone can't ask a question without serching first. If he wants to search, then fine, if he doesn;t that's fine too. And the OP hasn't "done anything" it is the retarded responses that you should be suprised at not the honest question.