Pricing Guide (US) For 2023 BMW M2 (G87)

meko · 10-26-2022, 04:09 PM

These are big numbers for a 2 series.

carjoy · 10-26-2022, 04:10 PM

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Jeez some of these comments.

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Originally Posted by ScullyD

Just more proof that 90% of the people here buy BMWs cause they can't afford Porsches, not cause they actually want the BMWs.

Raises hand

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Originally Posted by rcouchh

I still don't want to be forced to pay $2k for one m-track day that I do for free through work. $7900 for cf roof, buckets and trim is doable. $10k is pushing it.

The extra 5+ month wait sucks too. I put a deposit down 7 months ago to avoid this

I agree as the M driver's is way too expensive for what it is. But it's not 5+ months. 3 is more like it. They're not starting production until December right?

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Originally Posted by carjoy

Then go ahead and pay BMW what they ask. I'm not paying $80k plus for a base M2 after tax and finance costs, which will be around the price as most enthusiasts will want the nice Carbon bits. Who wants a base model in base form? Not many. If I have to do that I'd rather look elsewhere and get a car the way I want within my budget.

BMW bundled the seats instead of offering them separately, forcing buyers to pick all or nothing. If you don't mind then pony up. If you were talking about the CS or even the Competition model maybe, but $80k for a base M2?

No sir.

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Originally Posted by carjoy

When you equip this car in its bare form of course not. When you put a few nice bits as most of us will surely do it's edging 70k. Add, tag/title, dealers fees, markup, taxes, and financing then ask me again? You can't just look at the MSRP.

Lol at this. Dude if you want the bucket seats you pay the $10k. But it's not a base M, it has the carbon package.
Why are you even talking about "tag/title, dealers fees, markup, taxes, and financing" you have that in every single car you buy. What does that even have to do with the price of this car and it being affordable or not? The only thing that even changes is the taxes but you have to pay all of that anyway.

I was doing the math to gauge total cost out the door "Dude". I'll have to go without the Carbon seats, which I hoped were offered separately like the Carbon Roof or just get something else. It is what it is.

Quadruple VANOS · 10-26-2022, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rk95

What is the M racetrack pack?

Apparently nobody knows… yet somehow people know that it holds zero value when calculating the Carbon Package pricing. Lol

mynameisnick4 · 10-26-2022, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Game

It does the steering, you do the shifting.

Interesting, I always assumed these systems do the steering, throttle, and braking.

carjoy · 10-26-2022, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by meko

These are big numbers for a 2 series.

Just put your fanboy blinders on.

Quadruple VANOS · 10-26-2022, 04:52 PM

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It does the steering, you do the shifting.

Interesting, I always assumed these systems do the steering, throttle, and braking.

I believe people are simply mistaken. Manual BMWs aren't going to park themselves while the driver works the clutch. You'll see when we learn more.

Poochie · 10-26-2022, 05:09 PM

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These are big numbers for a 2 series.

Just put your fanboy blinders on.

You're being unreasonable with your constant complaints on the cost of this vehicle.

I totally get it, inflation aside, 62k+ is still a lot of money for an automobile but BMW was never going to give it to you for free, so here we are and when you look at it in relative terms, you are getting a lot more standard features in comparison to its predecessor or current competitors.

I'm not a BMW apologist, quite the opposite; as I actually maintain an active mistrust of everyone and everything but aside from its questionable design elements, when you look at the big picture, this is really good package for the what they are asking for.

NightWriter · 10-26-2022, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Likely waiting for the center lock wheels to become available from M Performance Parts. Definitely NOT opting for carbon buckets as this is my only car and not dealing with those bolsters in a daily driver.

Curious: Do you employ your own pit crew?

Poochie · 10-26-2022, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Likely waiting for the center lock wheels to become available from M Performance Parts. Definitely NOT opting for carbon buckets as this is my only car and not dealing with those bolsters in a daily driver.

Curious: Do you employ your own pit crew?

Relax, some folks in their 3,800lbs BMW really live their life a quarter mile at a time - on their way to pick up groceries or the kids from school..

NightWriter · 10-26-2022, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Poochie

Relax, some folks in their 3,800lbs BMW really live their their life a quarter mile at a time - on their way to pick up groceries or the kids from school..

Heh. No offense to Quadruple VANOS, but the whole "No carbon seats for me; I need a comfortable and practical daily driver" and "I'm not buying this car until I can option it with wheels that require a locomotive torque wrench to remove/install" is somewhat comical.

Quadruple VANOS · 10-26-2022, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Likely waiting for the center lock wheels to become available from M Performance Parts. Definitely NOT opting for carbon buckets as this is my only car and not dealing with those bolsters in a daily driver.

Curious: Do you employ your own pit crew?

Kind of. It's not like I'm personally removing wheels myself these days. I pay to have that taken care of just like I don't do my own oil changes.

NightWriter · 10-26-2022, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Kind of. It's not like I'm personally removing wheels myself these days. I pay to have that taken care of just like I don't do my own oil changes.

Sure, but if/when you get a flat, or need the tires replaced... good luck finding a shop that can handle them (let alone roadside assistance).

At least it'll make for a good theft deterrent.

Quadruple VANOS · 10-26-2022, 05:26 PM

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Relax, some folks in their 3,800lbs BMW really live their their life a quarter mile at a time - on their way to pick up groceries or the kids from school..

Heh. No offense to Quadruple VANOS, but the whole "No carbon seats for me; I need a comfortable and practical daily driver" and "I'm not buying this car until I can option it with wheels that require a locomotive torque wrench to remove/install" is somewhat comical.

Your logic doesn't hold up. I sit in the car every time I use it; yet I pretty much never remove the wheels myself. Can you see my perspective?

NightWriter · 10-26-2022, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Your logic doesn't hold up. I sit in the car every time I use it; yet I pretty much never remove the wheels myself.

Go browse Rennlist about what GT owners think about centerlock wheels. (Spoiler: Look cool, huge PITA)

Quadruple VANOS · 10-26-2022, 05:34 PM

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Your logic doesn't hold up. I sit in the car every time I use it; yet I pretty much never remove the wheels myself.

Go browse Rennlist about what GT owners think about centerlock wheels. (Spoiler: Look cool, huge PITA)

I'm entirely familiar with the topic. I've removed/installed countless center lock wheels in the past. IMO people blow up the issue as a way to talk themselves out of spending the money. I'm going into this completely comfortable with the benefits and drawbacks. The anti-theft aspect is HUGE for me…. Combine with the light weight and I'm totally in.

fanofbmwe46 · 10-26-2022, 06:19 PM

Why does weight matter if it's significantly faster around a track than a similarly priced P-Car

GrannyShiftG80 · 10-26-2022, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Why does weight matter if it's significantly faster around a track than a similarly priced P-Car

Because people need an excuse to hate on the m2

JustinHEMI · 10-26-2022, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Allenssmart

Because people need an excuse to hate on the m2

And it's all so tiresome. At least most of the F87 "my car just exploded in value" dweebs effed off back to their own forum.

BRAKE! · 10-26-2022, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Why does weight matter if it's significantly faster around a track than a similarly priced P-Car

Adding to this, why does weight matter so much when majority of you will never track your M car (or any other car) to begin with?

"because I can feel the weight when I'm taking an exit at 45 mph" yeah, okay

Brandt51 · 10-26-2022, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Allenssmart

Because people need an excuse to hate on the m2

And it's all so tiresome. At least most of the F87 "my car just exploded in value" dweebs effed off back to their own forum.

Nope!

JustinHEMI · 10-26-2022, 07:44 PM

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Nope!

*Most

Danman5666 · 10-26-2022, 08:26 PM

It sounds like there's a lot of hand wringing here.

It's already been proven that this is far more cost effective than the F87 in 2019/2020 dollars along with newer technology and standard features.

BMW has always maintained a business model of standard features plus chargeable options - I'm not sure why this is a surprise.

Personally for me, this is the best bang for the buck compared to a G80/2 and priced just right. I realize it's an apples to oranges comparison to the M3/4, but BMW will sell these like hotcakes.

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