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      05-13-2022, 11:45 AM   #23
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Lol, who drives on low revs on track
You won't believe how many discussions I've had with people trying to tell me their diesel would be so much faster than a more powerful petrol engine, because all of the torque.
It would be with the right gearing.

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      05-13-2022, 12:21 PM   #24
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M240i is best buy at the moment for money and what BMW offer.

Also very beautiful car special in purple. And it has normal size grill.
Yes, I agree...... I saw it in red colour (Melbourne Rot metallic) and it's not cool! The car is so gloomy.: palec dolů
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      05-13-2022, 02:18 PM   #25
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You won't believe how many discussions I've had with people trying to tell me their diesel would be so much faster than a more powerful petrol engine, because all of the torque.
i just point them to the ice cream truck across the road
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I came across this YouTube video and it looks like this guy was able to lap quicker in the M240 than the M3 Competition. I can't understand a single word and don't know the details on the M3 run but this car definitely punch above its weight.
i think he took drugs while filming the M240i lap. probably gave some to the car too.

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It would be with the right gearing.

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still comes down to power, and in the Le Mans car, same power but 22% more efficient.
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      05-16-2022, 05:01 AM   #28
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FOR SALE: My G80. 2 slo. No low balls. I know wut I got.
nah man be honest it's the grills, everyone here knows it lol
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      05-17-2022, 09:35 PM   #29
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Times are changing. HP or TQ don't differentiate cars, as 400+ hp engines are available en mass from the factory. When you get to that much power it's all about putting it on the road. It is today's drivetrains, the trannies, the diffs and the high tech traction electronics that win races. Add advanced 4WD and you ll say "what physics? Pssht"
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      05-18-2022, 12:32 AM   #30
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Times are changing. HP or TQ don't differentiate cars, as 400+ hp engines are available en mass from the factory. When you get to that much power it's all about putting it on the road. It is today's drivetrains, the trannies, the diffs and the high tech traction electronics that win races. Add advanced 4WD and you ll say "what physics? Pssht"
I couldn’t agree more,that’s why I went xdrive ,every bit of hp you add to this car is gonna make it to the pavement ,and not create traction issues like rwd or fwd cars it’s a win win in my book
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      05-18-2022, 06:01 AM   #31
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Times are changing. HP or TQ don't differentiate cars, as 400+ hp engines are available en mass from the factory. When you get to that much power it's all about putting it on the road. It is today's drivetrains, the trannies, the diffs and the high tech traction electronics that win races. Add advanced 4WD and you ll say "what physics? Pssht"
I agree as well.

Besides BMW’s masterful B58 engine, BMW’s other masterpiece is their xdrive, which IMO has been overlooked by RWD traditionalists but is now proving to be one of the best AWD systems out there. Xdive will be the smart choice for anyone who wants to take “full advantage” of today’s powerful engines, whether at launch or in the corners or yes even on damp roads.

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      05-19-2022, 07:27 AM   #32
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Agreed.

I think car journalists are afraid to embrace the new era where traction is king. They play it safe by writing about the "good old RWD times" and doing burnouts and slides on queue.

I used to light up the tires on my E36 M3 in the 90s, but "it doesn't do it for me any more"

Getting 60ft times that rival drag cars and getting on 100% throttle after the apex as if I am driving a track car is a much more rewarding experience.

That's why the F80 didn't convince all the proper ///M fanboys. Undertired and overpowered as it was, 911s were having them for breakfast at the track
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