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It's not something they deliberately engineered to behave like that, more collateral degradation. At least in a sporty set-up. On the other hand, for a none sportive car, the excessive assistance and total lack of feel is often interpreted as "luxury". |
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Just love this thing. Provides me the same feeling as the e30 325i, +30yrs back. It was obviously engineered for fun, unlike the majority of other cars. This M240i still holds this unique positioning in 2022.
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Man, those are impressive numbers. Same 1/4 mile time as my old Viper GTS that was raw as hell and one of the fastest things on the street 20 years ago.
I wouldn't be too concerned with the rear seats as I only put the kids in the back, and maybe could put an adult in for a really short trip in the M2. It's a shame on the auto gearbox only, though. The weight also, yes they can make it perform like a lighter car, but does it feel lighter? I'll have to test drive one to see. |
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01-06-2022, 03:20 PM | #27 |
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Nice write up, and always happy to see when BMW puts out a car geared for driving fun.
Looking forward to test driving one!
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01-06-2022, 03:43 PM | #28 |
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It should be available with a 6 speed manual and rwd. This should be the purest bmw that bmw is actually building but it seem like all the money is moving toward EV development.
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This isn't to say BMW only caters to American drivers, but As I posted in another thread, most Americans can't be bothered with steering because it gets in the way of texting, tweeting, and constant iPhone use in the car. BMW knows they want the ability to steer with only a pinky or left knee. So they give them what they want. The anger over shitty steering is misdirected at BMW when it should be directed at lazy drivers that have zero interest in, well, driving.
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Plus Alfa's steering is a little on the lighter end and is no way tiring to operate, yet it's still regarded as the gold standard of its segment. Then you have the Macan and Cayenne which sell in droves to moms despite their reasonably stiff steering with good road feel.
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01-06-2022, 05:58 PM | #34 |
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Destroys the old F22 M235i/240i.
Weight is a number on a spec sheet; CLAR cars are known for masking the subjective feeling of weight while delivering superior real-world measurable performance. CLAR cars punch above their weight class (or is it below?). Yes, the old car's lighter - it's also nearly decade-old chassis tech. I bet you could've told some people after a test drive that the G42 is lighter than the F22 and they'd easily believe it. F-generation cars were not known for excellent steering feel by any means. The steering on this car is noticeably sharper than the F22's. Everyone who drives a G42 immediately compares it to the M2 Comp; this car overdelivers for its price point and positioning in the product lineup. The only thing stopping this car from being a universal instant classic is the lack of manual transmission option. Even with that knock against it, this is still going to end up an enthusiast favorite. It's just a fantastic package all around. The 230i will also surprise some people. I drove an M-Sport a few weeks ago and loved it, surprising level of fun factor. RWD + less weight + CLAR = two thumbs up. |
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01-06-2022, 06:23 PM | #35 |
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weights M240 vs M3 vs M5 CS
Crazy how close these are
M3 comp xdrive is only 100 lbs heavier than M240 xdrive M5 CS is only 100 lbs heavier than M3 comp xdrive each is 7 inches longer than the next 7" = 100 lbs (all with xdrive), not apples to apples but still! |
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At least now you can order the M340i with a carbon roof (Wich I find very reasonable at 1900$cad). And the M240i is available without on the base model (at least here in Canada).
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I'll let you guess which one I owned for 13 years. :-D I really wish the m240 came with a manual. It's a plenty fast for me for a fun car that won't see the track. |
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ZF8 is super in manual actuation. Not sure why the distinct minority are so upset. We have new sports coupe and its not perfect - manual or not. A manual does not make a car perfect. It just is a car with a manual lol. Drive the PDK - superb gearbox. Who needs a manual........if so call BMW and ask why. No one owes us a manual. They build and it sells without manual. Time to move on. For utilizing the power manual is not optimal ever now. |
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I drove my friends 911 GT3 with MT and understood immediately the lure of the manual. It's an effort - in, satisfaction out type of equation. There is tremendous feeling when you get it right. It feels like you are driving a race car. It's light and stripped down with very little tech to get in the way. It's also pretty exhausting to drive for very long.
My M240i is really a very different beast. Lots of tech and incredible engineering yields an effortlessly fast car that just goes fast without trying hard. Having it with a MT doesn't seem like a good fit to me. |
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I think if the ZF8 can be tuned well (as I've read it was in a Jaguar Project 8, new M3 and M5 CS) it's better all around as it's smoother and won't upset the cars chassis. It's definitely improved in BMWs over the years. But a good manual transmission car is still the best for people that like driving manual and aren't setting lap times. Just makes driving a much more engaging experience. With auto rev matching now, it's as easy as it's ever been. |
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The new m2 is gonna rip.
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