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      12-20-2023, 09:31 AM   #45
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Wait, what? So GT3, S/T, GT4 are not special 911 variants?
You sound like someone that has never driven any 911.
As I mentioned, the GT3 RS and GT4 RS are good choices, but in the 911 line for track days there is nothing that distinguishes it from many other cars that are track focused from a driving perspective. I looked at Caymans and 911s amongst other cars for track use a few years ago. As with my Z4M, they were getting too heavy and isolated compared with a 540kg car with no power assistance on brakes or steering. The base 911 is much closer to the M2 than it is to a good track car from a driving experience and fun perspective.

Plenty of mainly British track focused cars (of which mine is read legal) that have much better steering, gear change, handling and lap times than any standard 911 and in some cases the GT3/GT4s, too. I had 20 laps as a passenger in a 2023 GT4 this past summer and it gave me the same impression as the McLaren MP4-12C I drove on track in Vegas some years ago - very competent with good lap times, but isolated and clinical, much more video game like than the most fun track cars, flattering the driver and hiding their mistakes, but not challenging them.
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      12-20-2023, 10:05 AM   #46
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man ppl really spend time arguing with anonymous forum users
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      12-20-2023, 10:25 AM   #47
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      12-20-2023, 10:50 AM   #48
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Literally $60k vs $120k, I don't really understand the point of even thinking about this comparison (which is why you're not gonna find content on it).
Why? A lot of people cross-shop cars when looking for these particular performance cars. Even though I agree that such a large $$ discrepancy makes for a strange comparison but shows how many checkboxes the M2 hits from a complete package. It's really hard to ignore.

Just for reference, I was cross-shopping fun cars between $60k-$185k. I don't care if the car is cheaper and see it as better "bang" for the buck. I was looking at RS6/RS7, M8c, 911 GTS, Panamera GTS, AMG GT63 Coupe (upcoming), C8 Z06. I essentially gave up for a while because I couldn't find anything I liked. I drove my friend's G87 M2 and loved it, so I ordered one.

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      12-20-2023, 11:18 AM   #49
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man ppl really spend time arguing with anonymous forum users
And I read through all of it!

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No they don’t. Want to argue over it?
And this was just well-timed. I LOL'ed.
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      12-20-2023, 12:09 PM   #50
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man ppl really spend time arguing with anonymous forum users
It’s either this or Netflix.
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      12-20-2023, 12:35 PM   #51
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This shouldn't even be a discussion.

If you can afford a 992, get one. The M2 and 992 aren't competitors. The 992 is essentially sports car perfection for enthusiasts. Anybody that has the means and can only pick one car to buy is NOT picking the M2 over a 911. No chance unless they already own a 911. Lol.

Porsche > BMW and 992 (or even a 991.2) > Any M2
I literally wrote a long comment on page 1.
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      12-20-2023, 01:04 PM   #52
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I have both the m2 and a 991.2 GTS.

Driven plenty of 992 variants.

Base 992 vs M2 I’m going M2.

More fun, more practical thus gets more use which means I’m having fun more often. Cheaper maintenance if you care about that kind of thing.
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      12-20-2023, 09:54 PM   #53
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Unless you have money for a GT 911...BORINGGGGG. Get an M2.
Not so, the Carrera T with a manual is a fabulous almost base 911. Nothing boring there.
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      12-21-2023, 01:24 AM   #54
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Thank you KCuv for making this a worthwhile discussion & for painting the M2 in a more realistic unbiased light. I like when P car owners praise it for what it is. It's a super sexy coupe & wonderful machine. At it does all this for a price that's almost impossible to beat.
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      12-21-2023, 01:40 AM   #55
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I just got my G87 and I’m still in the break in period, but I’m in love. It’s a phenomenal car. Admittedly it’s been I while since I sold my F87, but everything about this car feels tighter and more precise. Sure, Porsche will always be better, but this car is damn good. It will be interesting to see how much my 991 Touring gets driven now that it has a sporty stablemate.

You shouldn’t have any regrets picking the M2. It’s mostly FOMO.
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It’s either this or Netflix.
not gonna lie that was good haha
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      12-21-2023, 08:52 PM   #57
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See that little guy on the end? (not the shitty CRV, that's the nanny's car)

The M2 is parked out there 'cause I drive it more...heh heh...

One thing about the M2; at its price, it is the performance bargain of the century.
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      12-21-2023, 09:11 PM   #58
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I see many of us are 911 AND M2 owners.
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      12-26-2023, 09:57 PM   #59
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I see many of us are 911 AND M2 owners.
Many of us here are both 911 and M2 lovers...it's a petrolhead thing!
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      12-27-2023, 08:20 PM   #60
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+1 for cross-shopping different "classes" of vehicles. I was cross-shopping between a M2, 911 and Lotus. Oh and I previously owned a M2C and I still miss that car everyday.

Back to my cross-shopping...so the 911 itch has to be scratched, if you have that itch like myself. I have a Targa 4 GTS and it is an amazing car. I actually was not able to get a M2, but did get a Targa, go figure.

For those of you that say only GT cars matter, well, I also have a GT3 and as much as I appreciate it. I do find myself lusting for M2. Why?

...because it is more usable for my specific use cases. It can go anywhere and do anything. I drove my GT3 on a few roadtrips and there were occasions I wished I had a M2

Take it from guy who has been there and done that, no need to justify a 911 is always the correct answer or the M2 does it all for a fraction of the price. We has car guys / gals appreciate cars for a wide varity of reasons. It is about the specific scenario that fits with each characteristic of a car.

As for me, I will continue to enjoy my vehicles, but hoping to be back in the M2 family sooner rather than later.
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