[ninja_geezer]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

This is the G87 forum. There is a different section for G42/2 series.

Yes we know but i was pointing out that they all use the same windows....therefore its relevant no matter where its posted ....

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by ninja_geezer

Yes we know but i was pointing out that they all use the same windows....therefore its relevant no matter where its posted ....

Window may be the same but BMW could have used different suppliers for the motor or other internal parts from year to year and model to model. Hence, posting in the G42 forum may be more appropriate.

Oh, to add...I have both a MY23 G42 M240 and a MY23 G87 and I wouldn’t say it is slow or fast. It is about the same as my previous MY19 S3 (my B9 S5 was a little faster but ironically the internal mechanism broke within the first year). I would rather have it a tick slow than fast and bottoming out.

[ninja_geezer]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Window may be the same but BMW could have used different suppliers for the motor or other internal parts from year to year and model to model. Hence, posting in the G42 forum may be more appropriate.

Oh, to add...I have both a MY23 G42 M240 and a MY23 G87 and I wouldn’t say it is slow or fast. It is about the same as my previous MY19 S3 (my B9 S5 was a little faster but ironically the internal mechanism broke within the first year). I would rather have it a tick slow than fast and bottoming out.

G42 and a G87 thats just plain greedy lol.......

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by ninja_geezer

G42 and a G87 thats just plain greedy lol.......

M240 is the wife's (and of course, I have fun driving it at times).

[DrJLag420]

Owning both a G42 & a G87 is not greedy. Just good taste in having fun cars 😉

Happy Motoring Y’all!

[Geighty7]

Funny thread. NGL I do notice this also and have poked fun at it with my other friends who have G87’s as well.

Something on the car has to be slow I guess to make up for all this speed! LOL

[ninja_geezer]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

M240 is the wife's (and of course, I have fun driving it at times).

Haha dont blame you

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherMotown

Why, in the name of sweet baby Jesus are these windows SO SLOW?

The 'Fast Window Speed' free trial in your BMW subscription ran out. You can either pay the $2.99 monthly fee or try to find some BMW Subscription CDs and reinstall them on your 486.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

3.45 sec in my M2 & 4.13 sec in my X3MC. How fast should they open?

JABCAT with the double blind, peer reviewed window speed study. Thank you for your tireless research Dr. Cat

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

JABCAT with the double blind, peer reviewed window speed study. Thank you for your tireless research Dr. Cat

Anytime. It's my job to contribute to the scientific literature

[Carefree]

Well, I made 3 passes on each side, here are the averages:
Driver side- 3.65 seconds down, 4.42 seconds up
Passenger side- 3.72 seconds down, 4.31 seconds up
Transmission Setting- Park
Moonroof- Closed
Temperature 75° F, Humidity 28%, Wind NNE 7mph
Window Tint- Lumar 35%
Apple Watch- 15 Pro

These are badass windows

[NewToM]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Well, I made 3 passes on each side, here are the averages:
Driver side- 3.65 seconds down, 4.42 seconds up
Passenger side- 3.72 seconds down, 4.31 seconds up
Transmission Setting- Park
Moonroof-Closed
Temperature 75° F, Humidity 28%, Wind NNE 7mph
Window Tint Lumar 35%
Apple Watch 15

These are badass windows

Love the hard science at work! Thanks for including tint % as it may be key!

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Well, I made 3 passes on each side, here are the averages:
Driver side- 3.65 seconds down, 4.42 seconds up
Passenger side- 3.72 seconds down, 4.31 seconds up
Transmission Setting- Park
Moonroof- Closed
Temperature 75° F, Humidity 28%, Wind NNE 7mph
Window Tint- Lumar 35%
Apple Watch- 15 Pro

These are badass windows

did you account for particulate drag on the dirty windows or the current phase of the moon? no offense, but i have a hard time believing these numbers are all (window) motor. im calling bullsh!t.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

did you account for particulate drag on the dirty windows or the current phase of the moon? no offense, but i have a hard time believing these numbers are all (window) motor. im calling bullsh!t.

Femto unlock and stage 2 or stage 3 E85 on those windows.

[Baller]

I knew the window was pulling too hard to be stock.

[M2siast]

Problem solved:

https://gbodyparts.com/product_info....oducts_id=3539

You’re welcome.

[KC87ZB]

Maybe the OP didn't subscribe for that option - the higher speed window option, comes free on M cars

[dadjoker]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Agreed...he probably should have gone with the GT3 RS (I am sure he cross shopped it with the 230 and went with the 230 because of the....trunk space?).

Somewhat unrelated but the 718 GT4 actually has more cargo space than the M2. Learned that while cross shopping. Go figure. I still think the M2’s cargo space is more practical due to the fact that it’s all in one place

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by dadjoker

Somewhat unrelated but the 718 GT4 actually has more cargo space than the M2. Learned that while cross shopping. Go figure. I still think the M2’s cargo space is more practical due to the fact that it’s all in one place

This statement is incorrect, as obvious as it is… the M2 has more cargo space of course.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/11/...-luggage-test/

[dadjoker]

Originally Posted by M2siast

This statement is incorrect, as obvious as it is… the M2 has more cargo space of course.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/11/...-luggage-test/

Correct me if I’m wrong but this puts the 718 at 14.7 cubic feet whereas the G87 has 13.8. I understand a lot of the space in the 718 is unusable but it’s still slightly better than a 911 which I think is extremely surprising.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by dadjoker

Correct me if I’m wrong but this puts the 718 at 14.7 cubic feet whereas the G87 has 13.8. I understand a lot of the space in the 718 is unusable but it’s still slightly better than a 911 which I think is extremely surprising.

The spec sheet says “with seats folded”. If you fold the seats in the M2 you triple the 13.8…

A mere look at the picture of both trunks shows the claim is BS. The car can’t hold 2 carryons… whereas you can fit 5 carryons in the M2, without folding seats.

I thought the “seats folded” terminology for Porsche was strange since technically you can only “fold” one seat, I suppose, or you won’t drive… I’m not sure how they measured it. Couldn’t be bothered to find a magazine that actually measured the space, but it most certainly isn’t the same as the M2 or the 911 (which can fold seats).

[dadjoker]

Originally Posted by M2siast

The spec sheet says “with seats folded”. If you fold the seats in the M2 you triple the 13.8…

A mere look at the picture of both trunks shows the claim is BS. The car can’t hold 2 carryons… whereas you can fit 5 carryons in the M2, without folding seats.

I thought the “seats folded” terminology for Porsche was strange since technically you can only “fold” one seat, I suppose, or you won’t drive… I’m not sure how they measured it. Couldn’t be bothered to find a magazine that actually measured the space, but it most certainly isn’t the same as the M2 or the 911 (which can fold seats).

I didn’t catch that on the spec sheet… that is a pretty stupid way to measure it. Thanks for the correction. Plan on deleting my rear seats on my M2 as soon as it’s here anyways as I don’t have any kids