G87 M2 xDrive Coming!? Possible Confirmation in BMW TIS Document

02M3ForMe · 08-08-2022, 07:05 PM

It made the front page, it’s happening.

FrankieNuo · 08-08-2022, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubchariot

Are we going to see a 3800+ lb m2? For comparison, 2022 RS3 is just 3472 lb with AWD.

How does Audi manage to figure it out and we can't?

The only thing they have figured out is understeer and what parts to source from Volkswagen to maximize profits.

FrankieNuo · 08-08-2022, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neophyte

This is a weird move by BMW.
Why would anyone choose a heavier M3/M4 over the M2? Both AWD with the same engine?

This would kill the m4, no? Same exact chassis. The m3 is still your sedan option.

///M TOWN · 08-08-2022, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

It made the front page, it’s happening.

Highly doubtful to ever see the light of day

Same reason no 2er Convertible

There is no business case

antzcrashing · 08-08-2022, 09:46 PM

Would be a beast

GaoKS · 08-08-2022, 10:03 PM

If they make the new M2 in an xDrive config I'll sell the G80 and use it as a true weekend warrior.

M3WC · 08-08-2022, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tag

21DM, 22DM, 23DM model codes not in system.

https://myair-bdr.bmwgroup.com/air/f...rt.xhtml?guid=

Only see 11DM, 12DM, 13DM. All rear wheel drive.

Tag · 08-08-2022, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3WC

21DM, 22DM, 23DM model codes not in system.

https://myair-bdr.bmwgroup.com/air/f...rt.xhtml?guid=

Only see 11DM, 12DM, 13DM. All rear wheel drive.

They exist in a different system that you don’t have access to.

02M3ForMe · 08-08-2022, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Highly doubtful to ever see the light of day

Same reason no 2er Convertible

There is no business case

The demand for an M2 with G8x-level M xDrive will be significant. It will outsell the RWD-only model.

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 08-08-2022, 11:56 PM

Interesting discussion topic here. This makes the anticipation of the production G87 M2 even more exciting. Only time will tell the direction the M division is going with this new M2.

Game · 08-09-2022, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Highly doubtful to ever see the light of day

Same reason no 2er Convertible

There is no business case

The demand for an M2 with G8x-level M xDrive will be significant. It will outsell the RWD-only model.

Not if it only comes in auto.

M2PDX · 08-09-2022, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game

How does Audi manage to figure it out and we can't?

Have you driven an RS3 lately? Incredibly fast, but no soul, and not a lot of fun. Is that what we want from the M2?

vampire81 · 08-09-2022, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Have you driven an RS3 lately? Incredibly fast, but no soul, and not a lot of fun. Is that what we want from the M2?

the audi is a front wheel drive car while the BMW is a rear wheel drive one. it'll still be superior to the audi.

and then why anyone would care if the G87 is offered with xdive as an option? just don't tick the box.

Game · 08-09-2022, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game

How does Audi manage to figure it out and we can't?

Have you driven an RS3 lately? Incredibly fast, but no soul, and not a lot of fun. Is that what we want from the M2?

I meant in terms of terms of weight. The car never did anything for me.

That being said, I'm sure there's plenty of RS3 owners that find it quite fun.

brava09 · 08-09-2022, 01:54 AM

I'll seriously consider an M2 if it comes with xdrive

buckybadger · 08-09-2022, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3AWD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neophyte

This is a weird move by BMW.
Why would anyone choose a heavier M3/M4 over the M2? Both AWD with the same engine?

Because some of us want more space

And a big grille 😁

Niko ZV · 08-09-2022, 05:20 AM

I was waiting on this

Niko ZV · 08-09-2022, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin76

I will only buy the M2 with xDrive

but...

I may only buy an M2 without xDrive

as7920 · 08-09-2022, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brava09

I'll seriously consider an M2 if it comes with xdrive

I'd consider swapping my incoming, soon to arrive M4C xDrive for an M2C AWD version, however, one of the main reasons for jumping on the M4 and not M3 was ID7 and the traditional binnacle and not the ID8 and Dual screen "upgrade" that will come with the G87.

aaaaah · 08-09-2022, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Have you driven an RS3 lately? Incredibly fast, but no soul, and not a lot of fun. Is that what we want from the M2?

No, and dropping 400lb of fat would go a long way to helping the G87 feel even better.

The F22/F87 was fat enough, the extra weight that the G42/G87 has put on is just ridiculous.

M2PDX · 08-09-2022, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vampire81

the audi is a front wheel drive car while the BMW is a rear wheel drive one. it'll still be superior to the audi.

and then why anyone would care if the G87 is offered with xdive as an option? just don't tick the box.

The RS3 is all wheel drive. It only comes that way.

Dino355 · 08-09-2022, 08:22 AM

The F87 was arguably too heavy. This thing will be marginally lighter than the G82.

Imagine how hard on tyres and brakes this will be if using it on track.

I was at a trackday when Joe Achilles was there in a G80 M3 and the brake pads were destroyed within two hours.

08-08-2022, 07:05 PM	#45
02M3ForMe Lieutenant Colonel 4265 Rep 1,623 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	It made the front page, it’s happening.
	Appreciate 1 DrJLag420799.00 Quote

08-08-2022, 09:46 PM	#49
antzcrashing Brigadier General 1912 Rep 3,220 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW 440i GC Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Eastern MA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 BMW 440i GC xD ... [9.75]	Would be a beast
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-08-2022, 10:03 PM	#50
GaoKS Lieutenant 511 Rep 455 Posts Drives: '23 Raptor Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	If they make the new M2 in an xDrive config I'll sell the G80 and use it as a true weekend warrior. __________________ Current: '23 Ford Raptor Incoming: '24 G87 M2 - BG/6spd BMW Past Rides: 2023 G80 Comp, 2023 G80 xDrive, 2021 M3 Comp, 2020 M340i, 2019 540i, 2016 M4, 2016 535i, 2008 545i
	Appreciate 1 lithe31.00 Quote

08-08-2022, 11:56 PM	#54
Kevin_The_Clean1 Brigadier General 3309 Rep 3,943 Posts Drives: 2020 X3 MC Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Campbell, CA iTrader: (11)	Interesting discussion topic here. This makes the anticipation of the production G87 M2 even more exciting. Only time will tell the direction the M division is going with this new M2. __________________ 1998 E36 M3 - Totaled 2003 E39 M5 - Gone but not forgotten 2011 E90 335i M-Sport - Daily Driver 2017 F87 M2 - Sold & missed 2020 F97 X3 M Competition - Finally arrived ///
	Appreciate 1 ///M TOWN18329.00 Quote

08-09-2022, 01:54 AM	#59
brava09 Lieutenant Colonel 767 Rep 1,683 Posts Drives: M4C xdrive Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	I'll seriously consider an M2 if it comes with xdrive __________________ 22 M4 Competition xdrive 19 M5 Competition sold 16 F-Type S AWD sold 11 Audi RS5 Misano Red--sold 08 E92 M3 Jerez Black 6MT--sold 08 E92 335i 6MT traded in for M3
	Appreciate 5 Ronin76830.00 as7920600.00 ///BMW Junkie473.50 EthanEJC199.50 lithe31.00 Quote

08-09-2022, 05:20 AM	#61
Niko ZV Lieutenant 118 Rep 440 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 Bmw M3 [0.00] 2001 BMW M3 [0.00]	I was waiting on this
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-09-2022, 08:22 AM	#66
Dino355 Lieutenant 255 Rep 593 Posts Drives: 2020 SB BMW M2 Competition Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London iTrader: (13)	The F87 was arguably too heavy. This thing will be marginally lighter than the G82. Imagine how hard on tyres and brakes this will be if using it on track. I was at a trackday when Joe Achilles was there in a G80 M3 and the brake pads were destroyed within two hours. __________________ F87 M2 Competition
	Appreciate 0 Quote