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Clear the engine ≠ Engine Clearance.
G42/87 have a substantial decrease in front overhang compared to the other 35up models but the engine clearance must be preserved for when one of you jackasses mows down a pedestrian, their skull won't necessarily split like a melon. |
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the real issue is that bmw does not use optimized rear wheel drive platform anymore. This kills the pure sport car and you get volume manufacturer. At this point M is severely impacted unlike ever before because of what's under the skin. Cosmetics are irrelevant at this point. May want to read details of clar platform and the new one called Neue Klasse that is coming out by '25. |
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I agree that the "is" model designation should've been continued to this day. However, ///Marketing dictates otherwise, sadly.
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I think my E30 325is only had these steering wheel stripes. Isn't M Performance a substantially similar equipment upgrade?
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It's not an M240. It's an M2. Just the 40 version. Suddenly it all makes sense 😬😬 |
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Next X3 M40 or M50 will also have the quad pipes. So we should get used to this for all upcoming M performance models |
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The ZF8 is made specifically for rwd architectures... and they were to cheap to keep the rwd dct.
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Also... I think all of the current M cars are solid. There is definitely some cheapness going on and a lot of weight bloating but they are still some of the best cars you can buy.
What does get me is the BS marketing... the M sport cars are not M cars however it seems BMW has really stepped their game up on the M performance cars and really hasn't progressed the actual M cars much at all. Case in point... look at brand new X3 M40i vs X3M comp... both pretty much look identical right now... the M comp has a slightly better suspension and more power... great... tune the B58 and ur awfully close.
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I've always felt BMW made their M-lites too good and close to the full M cars; they are too powerful, too fast, sound too good and too close to the range-topping model.
The fact that a mapped 340i will keep up with an M3 or worse, a mapped 240i will outgun an M2 is a failure on BMWs part for me. Yeah, I know cornering blah blah but 95% of drivers will never go on a race track and don't know shit about handling dynamics other than going around a round-about 60mph. It's not just BMW; Audi does it as well with their S models, my mate's S3 with a map and some exhaust mods is quicker than an RS3. I've seen mapped S4s beating RS4s. I get why they do it, but they make them too close, IMO; even stock for stock, there isn't a huge difference. It should be night and day, I think.
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I agree. Honestly if the M340i came in manual, I'd probably choose it over the M2. Just fits a personal need better. Plus, M3 is out of my budget.
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When tuned 335s could beat NA M3s. This was further continued by the B58 340s of which some had 380 hp w mpkk vs the F80s. And now? cmon
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The B58 is an amazing engine, again, if anything it's too good for what it is, this is a testament to the engineers that build them. You could argue that this new generation M is the first time that it really is the performance it should be, they didn't hold back with the S58 and went all in. So they should. That being said, I've seen a mapped 240i almost keep up with a stock G80 M3 Comp... Almost. That B58 has been giving M owners nightmares for a long time
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My mate took me in his F32 340i, and I couldn't fault it tbh, the interior is 90% an M3, and it's blasphemy to say this, but it drove better and pulled harder than the M4 comp I drove. Sorry not sorry I reckon with a remap, that thing would be brutal.
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I don't think there's any world in which these cars are all turbocharged and cars one level down don't match the cars above them in a straight line with a tune. That's just the nature of turbocharged cars. |
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I dont know it dose not seem that confusing atleast not compared to othere car manufactures.
It prity strait forward i think the confusing part is that some generations or lesser then otheres. G series appears to be the pinicle to go out on a high note as they transtion away from ICE. |
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It still does. http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/activity.php Last edited by T_U_D; 06-21-2022 at 06:23 PM.. |
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An ECU w unbeatable encryption and one that shuts down the moment outside parameters i.e. a jb4 show values above stock. Again... not really the right answer for us enthusiasts but...
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