[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by M2siast

What do you think made it better?

It’s strange you had vibrations, I never felt any. Did the vibrations start when you mounted them in the new wheels?

Feels a little more planted, but it could be the absence of vibration. Like I said, could be placebo.

No my car always had a mild vibration at speed, hence why the dealer tried rebalancing. Maybe one of my Pzeros was defective. In any case, all good now.

ETA incidentally, that dealers response, "All M cars vibrate like that," is why I won't be going back to them for anything. None of my M cars have ever vibrated like that, including my 2007 Z4MC. I really hate when they dismiss customer concerns with bullshit.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by ModernAngel

Will do once I get the chance. Need to take some.

All I have right now is the other side profile.

Is that Bucktown?

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Feels a little more planted, but it could be the absence of vibration. Like I said, could be placebo.

No my car always had a mild vibration at speed, hence why the dealer tried rebalancing. Maybe one of my Pzeros was defective. In any case, all good now.

ETA incidentally, that dealers response, "All M cars vibrate like that," is why I won't be going back to them for anything. None of my M cars have ever vibrated like that, including my 2007 Z4MC. I really hate when they dismiss customer concerns with bullshit.

LOL!!!
My car is just so smooth, coming from the E82 I feel like I’m driving a 7-series… if they told me M cars vibrated I’d laugh and never go back.

[Ravenseal]

We had our first date.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Just over 4K miles. The stretch on the rear was really bothering me.

Not to rub it in, looks like I won the tire lotto. Haha.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

We had our first date.

Ugly and dead, twitchy. Sell it.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Ugly and dead, twitchy. Sell it.

Don't forget numb and isolated.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Not to rub it in, looks like I won the tire lotto. Haha.

Congratulations!

[sacowich]

I lost the lottery as well. Gonna work extra hard to kill those Pzeros.

Are you able to get bmw spec Michelins?

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by sacowich

I lost the lottery as well. Gonna work extra hard to kill those Pzeros.

Are you able to get bmw spec Michelins?

You might be able to. Check tire rack for BMW STAR designated tires. It’ll usually say it on the search results.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by sacowich

I lost the lottery as well. Gonna work extra hard to kill those Pzeros.

Are you able to get bmw spec Michelins?

Yes, Tire Rack for sure has them. I posted it awhile back.

[npirnia]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

We had our first date.

Congrats and looks awesome! The other M2 that my dealer received was Toronto red and it looks amazing in person. Definitely one of the best reds I've seen.

Enjoy the new car!

-Nick

PS - I lost the tire lottery, but console myself by knowing that less grip isn't such a bad thing in 2023.

[M2siast]

So, serious question. It might be my previous experience with the E90 and Michelin Pilot Super Sports that I replaced the stock Pzero Runflats with, and went wider and square, and got 0 gains from, plus my bias of having Pzeros in my car now…

Where are you guys pulling this information that PS4S* are grippier than Pzeros*?

Is there a comparison or test I missed?
Or are we just parroting stuff?

Serious question as I’m 100% curious how we can assess this.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by M2siast

So, serious question. It might be my previous experience with the E90 and Michelin Pilot Super Sports that I replaced the stock Pzero Runflats with, and went wider and square, and got 0 gains from, plus my bias of having Pzeros in my car now…

Where are you guys pulling this information that PS4S* are grippier than Pzeros*?

Is there a comparison or test I missed?
Or are we just parroting stuff?

Serious question as I’m 100% curious how we can assess this.

No there is no comparison between the star varieties. So I assume they're very close. Why would BMW spec different star specs from different companies?

Non star varieties PS4S trounces all comers, but that doesn't tell us about the star spec.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Non star varieties PS4S trounces all comers, but that doesn't tell us about the star spec.

Agreed they must be similar.

RE: the above quote:

Does it, though?
https://youtu.be/sKFdBXwWc9w

It seems to me it didn’t have the best lap time or longevity… so maybe subjective?

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Agreed they must be similar.

RE: the above quote:

Does it, though?
https://youtu.be/sKFdBXwWc9w

It seems to me it didn’t have the best lap time or longevity… so maybe subjective?

Based on a mix of reviews but mostly tire rack. But it is old data. Everyone else has since responded so that's why Michelin is coming out with a new model. At the end of the day they're all good especially for people like me.

[JustinHEMI]

I added more thoughts.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Based on a mix of reviews but mostly tire rack.

Important to note Tire Rack only reviews what they sell.
That’s why I never paid much attention to them, especially because I’m mostly interested in winter tires…

It might be that there’s a “better” (the word better is totally subjective and means different things to all of us) tire out there but because they don’t sell it you’ll never hear about…

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

I added more thoughts.

Agreed with the additional thoughts. Think many tires are fine and it’s rare to find a dud in this class, especially the star marked tires.

But some tires do feel different than others, and again the word better depends on the person (some like better performance in the wet, some in the dry, some want longer tread life, less noise, more feel, quicker steering, etc)

Like cars, no such thing as better and all compromise somewhere.

That said, I like the Michelins and would buy them again.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Agreed with the additional thoughts. Think many tires are fine and it’s rare to find a dud in this class, especially the star marked tires.

But some tires do feel different than others, and again the word better depends on the person (some like better performance in the wet, some in the dry, some want longer tread life, less noise, more feel, quicker steering, etc)

Like cars, no such thing as better and all compromise somewhere.

That said, I like the Michelins and would buy them again.

Yep I freely admit to being a Michelin fanboy but that's because they usually are leading.

Plus they look so much better and offer more rim protection than the Pzeros that came off my car.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by npirnia

Congrats and looks awesome! The other M2 that my dealer received was Toronto red and it looks amazing in person. Definitely one of the best reds I've seen.

Enjoy the new car!

-Nick

PS - I lost the tire lottery, but console myself by knowing that less grip isn't such a bad thing in 2023.

Thank you! I can’t wait to see it in full sun. Today was an awful day in terms of Colorado weather and I was still stunned by the color in person. I think red is the right choice for someone who wants a car that pops.

[Game]

Tried on a couple of different 826m wheels. Still can’t decide