[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

How did this pivot to talking about wheel manufacturing?

Lmao... any forged wheel is going to be totally fine. Because a US based company charges $10k for $1k of materials doesn't mean shit about quality. Almost every US-based wheel certification program is a total scam and is 'self-certified'. Kind of like 'sustainable' fish. It's all a marketing scheme and means nothing. A block of aluminum is a block of aluminum. JWL is more rigorous but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.

Similarly, titanium is titanium. Welds are not all the same, however. Regardless, this exhaust is obnoxiously overpriced.

It's not about how much they charge for the exhaust, it's about the benefits versus the cost.
With 8k of forged wheels you benefit from a better look and have a reduction in unsprung mass (with multiple benefits), with 8k of titanium slip-on you only have 8k less in your bank account. That's all.
But of course everyone is free to squander their money as they see fit.

[ourlee]

The slip on is $5k. I’ve seen other slip ons $2-$3k. So we’re really talking $2k or so. How many of us are buying $3k of carbon bits? Yet we talk about $ spent per hp.

How many of us are buying the $4k ALPHA trunk? Is there a performance benefit I’m unaware of?

(I’m prob buying the ALPHA trunk too)

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

How did this pivot to talking about wheel manufacturing?

Lmao... any forged wheel is going to be totally fine. Because a US based company charges $10k for $1k of materials doesn't mean shit about quality. Almost every US-based wheel certification program is a total scam and is 'self-certified'. Kind of like 'sustainable' fish. It's all a marketing scheme and means nothing. A block of aluminum is a block of aluminum. JWL is more rigorous but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.

Similarly, titanium is titanium. Welds are not all the same, however. Regardless, this exhaust is obnoxiously overpriced.

That's not true, sustainable fish can be had if it's certified by the FDA. Henceforth we need to be mindful of the food we put on our tables. Our families are the most important thing we.......

I have no idea what I'm saying, I just wanted to take your hook and divert this conversation from exhaust, to wheel, to sustainable fish. Someone with real data will chime in.

Ah, and LOL :P

[vrooooom]

ALPHA trunk what?!

[ourlee]

Originally Posted by vrooooom

ALPHA trunk what?!

Check this out

https://precision-sport.com/products...ca101007&_ss=r

[RandomBro]

So we are comparing purely authentic parts to bolt on parts, wheels and fish now? LoL.

The difference between exhaust, wheels and carbon fiber parts/trunks is that some of these are for visuals only. Where as the others do more than just look pretty.

[RandomBro]

Originally Posted by aerobod

RAYS TE37 wheels are certified to JWL standards with it seems a 750kg load rating (JWL standards certify all sizes to the same load rating).

The stock M2 cast wheels have a lower strength to weight ratio, but are certified to the more exacting TUV standards (every size has to be tested) with a load rating of 815kg.

Both will be fine on an M2.

Was not referring to stock, was referring to ROTA & rep wheels made of shit casting process.

anything OEM can be assumed to be decent.

[ourlee]

Originally Posted by RandomBro

So we are comparing purely authentic parts to bolt on parts, wheels and fish now? LoL.

The difference between exhaust, wheels and carbon fiber parts/trunks is that some of these are for visuals only. Where as the others do more than just look pretty.

I’d argue mods are mods. None really needed (except getting rid of the highjacker stance)
A cool sounding exhaust means a lot to me, not concerned it adds hp or not

[RandomBro]

Originally Posted by ourlee

I’d argue mods are mods. None really needed (except getting rid of the highjacker stance)
A cool sounding exhaust means a lot to me, not concerned it adds hp or not

So if I'm hardcore tracking my car, better wheels and tires aren't needed? Vs. A cool sounding exhaust?

[ourlee]

Originally Posted by RandomBro

So if I'm hardcore tracking my car, better wheels and tires aren't needed? Vs. A cool sounding exhaust?

100% agree use case get diff mods. Mine is full GT daily cross country tourer with snows a few months a year.

And not to be critical (love what PHD is doing) but this thing weighs 2 tons. Sure you want to dedicate track it?

[RandomBro]

Originally Posted by ourlee

100% agree use case get diff mods. Mine is full GT daily cross country tourer with snows a few months a year.

Ok. That's all I'm trying to say haha. In terms of track performance there is very little that comes close to value of what u get out of sticky tires + lightweight strong wheels.

[KevM2]

Originally Posted by ourlee

I’m unconvinced 10k offers (me) value

And lol convince me this is a danger to my fam
What I’m looking for is this and I’m willing to pay for as close as possible
https://youtu.be/We9kkiOTyLQ?si=DcIavtSU0pDQ3LK6

I’m sorry but making the S58 M2 sound like a V8 Ferrari remids me of this:

https://youtu.be/CDafMzo4HO8?si=7SJz5_ln94x5qmCh

[Racerjbx]

Having to pay additional $2k for tips is what gets me. Should really come with tips.

Carbahn Ti exhausts for other models is around $5-$7k but comes complete.

The sound of all the aftermarket exhaust don't sound that much better
then stock on this vehicle. Why is that?

[ourlee]

Yeah one of the vendors told me I gotta buy the tips, one said he’d look into it. They look like one of the “ends” on each side has a weird proprietary bubble and there doesn’t look like enough meat to hack it off, Everything everyone is saying about this exhaust being too expensive. I agree at the $2k tips. Stupid

[Buketz]

Originally Posted by ourlee

The slip on is $5k. I’ve seen other slip ons $2-$3k. So we’re really talking $2k or so. How many of us are buying $3k of carbon bits? Yet we talk about $ spent per hp.

How many of us are buying the $4k ALPHA trunk? Is there a performance benefit I’m unaware of?

(I’m prob buying the ALPHA trunk too)

If I had your money, I’d burn mine

[ourlee]

Originally Posted by Buketz

If I had your money, I’d burn mine

I’m old and retired bags go with the territory (if serious)

[rcouchh]

Originally Posted by ourlee

The slip on is $5k. I’ve seen other slip ons $2-$3k. So we’re really talking $2k or so. How many of us are buying $3k of carbon bits? Yet we talk about $ spent per hp.

How many of us are buying the $4k ALPHA trunk? Is there a performance benefit I’m unaware of?

(I’m prob buying the ALPHA trunk too)

We're gonna have to get together once I have the alpha wing and you have the alpha trunk

[ourlee]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

We're gonna have to get together once I have the alpha wing and you have the alpha trunk

I’ll be in Philly with 2 lots the next few weeks. We’d both would love to meet up.
Do you Union transfer?
Osees 9/25
Amyl and the Sniffers 11/4
Petey 11/7

Get in that pit