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      08-02-2011, 03:32 PM   #1
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M3 Wet Sanding

OH..........MY..........GOD!!!

I thought I'd start a new thread on this as I've no doubt it'll cause a bit of interest and there will, over the next few days, be some interesting pictures....my detailer has probably spent as much time taking photo's as on the car I just hope the pictures get better later in the week


Anyway, I made the mistake of going to see my new car half way through the process today and I think I'm officially a crazy and seriously tapped individual for doing this to my brand new car!

I mean, it only had a bumpy paint-job.....now it's turned into Frozen Red!

What I can say is that the bodywork is so smooooooth....you can see the smoothness and it feels incredible - if he can get a shine on it again, it'll be incredible.

To get things rolling, I thought I'd get a couple with my phone today just to give you an idea of what I've gone and done - there'll be much better photo's coming once I get hold of the ones he's taken (and hopefully some good 'after' shots too!) but for now.....

....wish me luck for the pick-up tomorrow



How it was before...







And today it looks like....








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      08-02-2011, 03:37 PM   #2
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So is the orange peel only in the topcoat?
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The frozen red aint bad if the guy cant get it back
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      08-02-2011, 03:41 PM   #4
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So is the orange peel only in the topcoat?
Yes, entirely. Assuming there is still some top coat under all that 'flatness', and I have been assured that 80-90% of the top coat remains, then I can confirm that there is absolutely no orange peel on the bits he has flattened down - it's as smooth as glass

Crazy huh....I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it myself!


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The frozen red aint bad if the guy cant get it back
Don't....just don't even suggest that might happen!
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      08-02-2011, 03:43 PM   #5
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what are you paying for this?
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The wet sanding process can actually be a better way of keeping a good amount of clear coat on the car rather than heavy compounding. I've did this twice now to customers cars, once to remove deeper scratches and once to fully wet sand the car. The differance will be incredible and is a finish that this fine car deserves. Looking forward to the finished pics.
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He has missed a bit.
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      08-02-2011, 04:10 PM   #8
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Yea my car had orange peel from the factory. I should really wet sand it.
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As someone who has no idea on the details of wet sanding i'm assuming its some process to flatten the paint to remove imperfections.

Judging by the pics it has appeared to flatten the paint as such but how do they bring back the colour. Again assuming they won't be spraying it as it's a big and expensive job. I expect they use some type of compound right?

How much did it cost? My paint is awful too.
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what are you paying for this?
This is one thing I can't say....it's not cheap but its such a good price for 3+ days work that I promised not to post publicly. Think about the fact that a typical Swissvax approved detailer will charge between £300-500 per day just to machine polish......and I'm not paying that for the wet sanding!

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The wet sanding process can actually be a better way of keeping a good amount of clear coat on the car rather than heavy compounding. I've did this twice now to customers cars, once to remove deeper scratches and once to fully wet sand the car. The differance will be incredible and is a finish that this fine car deserves. Looking forward to the finished pics.
Thanks for this....I may sleep a bit better tonight! I am extremely anxious about this because.....


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As someone who has no idea on the details of wet sanding i'm assuming its some process to flatten the paint to remove imperfections.

Judging by the pics it has appeared to flatten the paint as such but how do they bring back the colour. Again assuming they won't be spraying it as it's a big and expensive job. I expect they use some type of compound right?

How much did it cost? My paint is awful too.
....I don't actually know how he's going to bring back the colour! I just hope he does!

Cost.....not on here I'm afraid. I promised



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He has missed a bit.
Trust you

Talking of cost....it'd make you wince!
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      08-02-2011, 04:45 PM   #12
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It will look great when he's done bud don't worry.
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      08-02-2011, 04:52 PM   #13
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Palm"NUTS" The last 4 letters says it all, Brave boy. If it was my car i would be doing a lot of

Hope it goes well
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The colour is still there, it's just the sanding marks you can see.
The gloss is brought back and the sanding marks are removed by machine polishing, usually a 2 or 3 stage polish. This is the sort of service a concours winning car will recieve in order to look the best it possibly can.
What wax/sealant are you choosing to put on the car after the detail? Swissvax best of show would be my choice even if it isn't the most durable wax.
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The colour is still there, it's just the sanding marks you can see.
The gloss is brought back and the sanding marks are removed by machine polishing, usually a 2 or 3 stage polish. This is the sort of service a concours winning car will recieve in order to look the best it possibly can.
What wax/sealant are you choosing to put on the car after the detail? Swissvax best of show would be my choice even if it isn't the most durable wax.
Yep, it's getting BoS and this is also the wax I have in my garage for when I need to top it up!

I just need to keep the swirls off it!
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      08-02-2011, 06:46 PM   #16
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It will look awesome Andy, can't wait to see the results!!!
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      08-02-2011, 07:35 PM   #17
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If he's done it right, the results will amaze you. You will have a mobile mirror there.

Looking forward to the pics.!
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      08-03-2011, 02:22 AM   #18
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I had a training day at KDS Keltec last Sunday, who specializes in wetsanding, some of the techniques are incredible.
A link to one of his pieces of work here...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...0refurbishment
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      08-03-2011, 02:47 AM   #19
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Let me get this right. When the car is finished its going to stand in the BMW Museum?

No?

Then its Britain's entry into the BMW World Concours Championship?

It isn't?

So its going on display in your own airconditioned car collection?

Its not?

Then you're going to enter it into the Hurlingham Club Concours D'Elegance?

You aren't?

Surely you're not just going to drive it?

You are?

On British roads?

In the rain?

Behind trucks throwing up a collection of dirty water, grit and stones?

Left in British car parks?

Under British trees?

Where birds can shit on it?

Without a whole car condom?

Are you sure you've thought this one through?

This could become the first every documented case of clinical depression triggered by a stone chip!

Thing is...I'm almost as bad. I spent the whole of Saturday foaming, washing and drying my Z4M before giving it the Meguiars
3 stage treatment....conditioner, polish, carnubra wax.

My neighbour "Steve...you were doing that 3 hours ago". I didn't like to explain

I made my back really sore and now I'm afraid to drive it

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Thats the price for looking good. You should know by now that any little niggle or imperfection in a car has to be rectified by Andrew.

It's like OCD with cars. The next owner will be really pleased.

It could be you!
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Looking forward to the next set of pics.
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Wow! Looking forward to seeing the finished product!!!
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