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      03-22-2023, 08:22 PM   #23
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Another win for the G80/G82.

Edit, FYI Porsche charges $900 for black calipers. No charge at BMW.
I wish we had the option for black calipers.
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For the same reason I'm changing from blue to red calipers with ZB. I thought the blue would be okay but a pop of red might be better than a different shade of blue.
Same here. Picked ZB with red brakes and bicolor wheels. Thought red will give better contrast over the blue.
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I don't really mind the slight mismatch with TR and the red caliper because red calipers are just synonymous with high performance braking these days and gives it the "Brembo vibe". Also either wheel selection does not draw huge amounts of attention away from the car.
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You know every Tom, Dick, and Harry wants to rattle can paint their calipers red and specifically because of what you stated above. Posers!

Red calipers have become passé and a large reason why the black caliper option has become popular over at Porsche for $900.

Edit, keep in mind the brakes on the G87 are nothing astounding. The rears suck! We have already been down that rabbit hole though.

zero21 See, I was not kidding.
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Same here. Picked ZB with red brakes and bicolor wheels. Thought red will give better contrast over the blue.
Yeah, I changed my calipers to red today for the contrast, probably gonna get red fluid caps from ind. The darker blue calipers would make ZB look even more pale
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zero21 See, I was not kidding.
Saw aswel yesterday and i even answered
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Another win for the G80/G82.

Edit, FYI Porsche charges $900 for black calipers. No charge at BMW.
Wish black calipers were a G87 option
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Wish black calipers were a G87 option

Agreed!

Another marketing up-sell for the G80/G82.
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Agreed!

Another marketing up-sell for the G80/G82.
As long it would come with Ceramic Compound Brakes.
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As long it would come with Ceramic Compound Brakes.

I have driven many M vehicles equipped with them on track. In my opinion they are an overkill for a vehicle to be solely used on public roads. The only advantage as a street car is the reduction in brake dust. They are not worth the money just to accomplish that.
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I have driven many M vehicles equipped with them on track. In my opinion they are an overkill for a vehicle to be solely used on public roads. The only advantage as a street car is the reduction in brake dust. They are not worth the money just to accomplish that.
Does it help with fading or taking care of brake fluid and installing SS brake lines better for fading mitigation?
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Does it help with fading or taking care of brake fluid and installing SS brake lines better for fading mitigation?

I have got them hot enough were brake fade was a major issue in a F90C. Not a good situation at 135-140 MPH.
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I have got them hot enough were brake fade was a major issue in a F90C. Not a good situation at 135-140 MPH.
Compared with std brakes, do ceramic take more beatings before fading?
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Compared with std brakes, do ceramic take more beatings before fading?

Yes, but there are a lot of variables to that.
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Compared with std brakes, do ceramic take more beatings before fading?
That's the whole point of CCB, they don't fade. They also don't make you stop any better than steel brakes (so long as you don't overheat them). Rule of thumb, if you're going to track your car hard CCB is something to consider but if you're just driving on the street, you won't see any ROI.
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Compared with std brakes, do ceramic take more beatings before fading?
They do so long as they don't get too hot. If they're at the upper end of the temp range they will literally disintegrate - even within operating temperature. The discs actually lose material over time. And the more material they lose, the less stress they can take. You can see where this is going.

Track people don't get CCB's because of this, resulting in more frequent replacements. The risk with steel or iron is cracking but if you don't drill the discs you will likely not have that issue.

CCB's are high maintenance if you want to get your money's worth.
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