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      03-23-2023, 04:03 PM   #23
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Yes, the strut brace is just stamped steel but the suspension on an M car is aluminum. Front struts, rear shocks, control arms, etc. Are you referring to the strut tower?
Is that what it’s called, Im sorry my car mechanic lingo isn’t the best. The front V shaped struts . I’ll try to attach an image bear wirh me

Fyi the car incorporates alot more steel than aluminum . If you take a look at the technical diagrams you can see for yourself. Most the suspension of an M car is not aluminum , contrary to what most people believe.
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Is that what it’s called, Im sorry my car mechanic lingo isn’t the best. The front V shaped struts . I’ll try to attach an image bear wirh me

Fyi the car incorporates alot more steel than aluminum . If you take a look at the technical diagrams you can see for yourself. Most the suspension of an M car is not aluminum , contrary to what most people believe.
The V is part of the strut brace but I'm glad you posted this. AFAIK the struts themselves (the components that look like coilovers) are aluminum. Now this has me second guessing, is this a typo, mislabeling or are they steel? Dang it, now I have to research the F out of this, or I'll lose my mind.
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The V is part of the strut brace but I'm glad you posted this. AFAIK the struts themselves (the components that look like coilovers) are aluminum. Now this has me second guessing, is this a typo, poor labeling or are the steel. Dang it, now I have to research the F out of this or I'll lose my mind.
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I just know metal , that’s about all my expterise extends too. A complete rookie when it comes to car geometery & suspension.
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OK, I see the discrepancy is with it not being labeled properly. I added numbers next to the bullet point so you can see what's what. What they refer to as 'front struts' are nothing more than the front V part of the strut brace.

One cool thing about this is that the aluminum brace in the pictures above actually extends all the way to the firewall and back to the other side boxing everything in.
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OK, I see the discrepancy is with it not being labeled properly. I added numbers next to the bullet point so you can see what's what. What they refer to as 'front struts' are nothing more than the front V part of the strut brace.

One cool thing about this is that the aluminum brace in the pictures above actually extends all the way to the firewall and back to the other side boxing everything in.
There's only eight line items but nine bullet points.

Edit: nine numbers*

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There's only eight line items but nine bullet points.

Edit: nine numbers*
You're right, I was being hasty and didn't notice that the last bullet point referenced both #8 and #9. Fixed the pic.
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OK, I see the discrepancy is with it not being labeled properly. I added numbers next to the bullet point so you can see what's what. What they refer to as 'front struts' are nothing more than the front V part of the strut brace.

One cool thing about this is that the aluminum brace in the pictures above actually extends all the way to the firewall and back to the other side boxing everything in.
Thank you for adding the numbers, it took me a moment earlier to count the bullet points and correlate them.
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Is that what it’s called, Im sorry my car mechanic lingo isn’t the best. The front V shaped struts . I’ll try to attach an image bear wirh me

Fyi the car incorporates alot more steel than aluminum . If you take a look at the technical diagrams you can see for yourself. Most the suspension of an M car is not aluminum , contrary to what most people believe.
Do you have the link to this complete document, please, that I referenced back here: https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...75&postcount=1
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I really appreciate all that extra bracing so I don't have to do it aftermarket.
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Anyone knows if modern BMW platforms have rear subframe issues (looking at you E36 and E46)?
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Anyone knows if modern BMW platforms have rear subframe issues (looking at you E36 and E46)?

I have not heard about it in quite a while, but that does not mean if you are tracking the living $hit out of it that it is not going to happen.

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So the additional bracing is basically the same setup that's used on the G80/G82 then correct? It is using the entire front end? If it works for the M3/M4 then all the better. They mentioned in the video about dampers and other suspension parts having same part numbers.
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So the additional bracing is basically the same setup that's used on the G80/G82 then correct? It is using the entire front end? If it works for the M3/M4 then all the better. They mentioned in the video about dampers and other suspension parts having same part numbers.
The G87 rear suspension tuning is from the G81, M3 Touring.
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Read back through the press material at launch and there's a whole section on this. I'm not sure how I read right through that and didn't pick it up.
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Do you have the link to this complete document, please, that I referenced back here: https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...75&postcount=1
Unfortunately no , this was actually posted by 86zccrx in the BMW Blog M2 Q&A thread .

Maybe he can shed some more light , i’d like to see the full document as well.
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Do you have the link to this complete document, please, that I referenced back here: https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...75&postcount=1
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Unfortunately no , this was actually posted by 86zccrx in the BMW Blog M2 Q&A thread .

Maybe he can shed some more light , i’d like to see the full document as well.
That page is out of the G8x M3/M4 Complete Vehicle Technical Training Documentation that was posted by ynguldyn.

There was also a technical training doc posted for the previous gen F80/2, but I never saw one for the F87 ever materialize. Only someone with access to the G87 version (if it even exists) would be able to post it. Until then all we have is the G80/2 one to go by.
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I can't wait to feel the front end on this thing
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Here are the next 2 pages of the technical reference guide which is available on the M3 forum and a good read as I would assume a lot carries over to the M2. The first image index numbers are referencing the front end image posted earlier in the thread.
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Here are the next 2 pages of the technical reference guide which is available on the M3 forum and a good read as I would assume a lot carries over to the M2. The first image index numbers are referencing the front end image posted earlier in the thread.
Are those brakes or chip clips?
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Are those brakes or chip clips?
Even though they admittedly don't look as good as a fixed caliper, I don't think anybody has complained about the rear braking performance of these cars despite their weight.
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Even though they admittedly don't look as good as a fixed caliper, I don't think anybody has complained about the rear braking performance of these cars despite their weight.
Uh, what? The rear brake caliper/pad is the only part of the braking system people complain about.
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Are those brakes or chip clips?
Braking will make the wheels dirty....
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