[KindaSortaTerrible]

So i tried something today and ended up in a highly embarrassing situation. I was on a hill, stopped at a light. Put on my ebrake to see if that would help provide a bit of an extra safeguard against rolling backward. Well, i stalled when I tried to take off. Turned the car back on, stalled again. Same thing the next time. During these attempts I think I kept the car in first but I would keep the clutch pressed in when I turned the car back on.

From what I described, did i do anything particularly egregious or was it just nerves fucking me up?

[ronin13013]

It wont roll back in that second it takes to release the clutch with throttle input.

Originally Posted by KindaSortaTerrible

So i tried something today and ended up in a highly embarrassing situation. I was on a hill, stopped at a light. Put on my ebrake to see if that would help provide a bit of an extra safeguard against rolling backward. Well, i stalled when I tried to take off. Turned the car back on, stalled again. Same thing the next time. During these attempts I think I kept the car in first but I would keep the clutch pressed in when I turned the car back on.

From what I described, did i do anything particularly egregious or was it just nerves fucking me up?

[wjones14]

Originally Posted by KindaSortaTerrible

So i tried something today and ended up in a highly embarrassing situation. I was on a hill, stopped at a light. Put on my ebrake to see if that would help provide a bit of an extra safeguard against rolling backward. Well, i stalled when I tried to take off. Turned the car back on, stalled again. Same thing the next time. During these attempts I think I kept the car in first but I would keep the clutch pressed in when I turned the car back on.

From what I described, did i do anything particularly egregious or was it just nerves fucking me up?

Did you stall because you left the e-brake on? You have to have the clutch in to start once you've stalled so that part wasn't wrong. But I think the hill-hold feature gives you two full seconds before it will roll backward once you release the foot brake, so it doesn't make sense to also use the e-brake.

[abrandonment]

Does the M2 not have a 'brake hold' or a 'hill assist' ?

[clydefrog]

Originally Posted by abrandonment

Does the M2 not have a 'brake hold' or a 'hill assist' ?

it definitely does by default, at least I didn't even need to go into the settings or put it on when I'm on a hill.

In fact it's so aggressive sometimes it does it on the slightest incline.

Not really sure what OP did besides stall

[Kepha]

It does have a “Drive-off assistant” function that holds the brake pressure for approx. 2 seconds. The manual also describes using the parking brake as an option just like you described.

So I don’t think you did anything wrong in using the parking brake. It wasn’t causing the stalls as the parking brake will automatically release with sufficient throttle input.

[G87M]

Net takeaway - don't worry, the car is fine 😊.

[mrdudley]

Originally Posted by KindaSortaTerrible

So i tried something today and ended up in a highly embarrassing situation. I was on a hill, stopped at a light. Put on my ebrake to see if that would help provide a bit of an extra safeguard against rolling backward. Well, i stalled when I tried to take off. Turned the car back on, stalled again. Same thing the next time. During these attempts I think I kept the car in first but I would keep the clutch pressed in when I turned the car back on.

From what I described, did i do anything particularly egregious or was it just nerves fucking me up?

Probably nerves. I rarely stall but when I do it’s on a hill and twice 😂

[ScottyRyan2019]

Probably just nerves. Try a Viagra next time.

[baron95]

It is a rule from the manual transmission gods. If you stall once, you will likely stall again, because you are frustrated for having stalled the first time.

OP - don't over think it. Next time gas it up and light those rear tires up. Guaranteed not to stall.

[xtougher]

It definitely has the "hold" feature.

When I first learned to drive my first car, I was nervous about rolling on hills, so I used to use my e-brake if someone was a bit closer to me than I was comfortable with...but that was with a pull-up hand brake.

I never really thought about doing that with an electronic version of that. I don't think I'm coordinated enough to do it, and would likely result in it CAUSING me to stall. LOL

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by KindaSortaTerrible

So i tried something today and ended up in a highly embarrassing situation. I was on a hill, stopped at a light. Put on my ebrake to see if that would help provide a bit of an extra safeguard against rolling backward. Well, i stalled when I tried to take off. Turned the car back on, stalled again. Same thing the next time. During these attempts I think I kept the car in first but I would keep the clutch pressed in when I turned the car back on.

From what I described, did i do anything particularly egregious or was it just nerves fucking me up?

Nerves and lack of practice.

Way back when and I used the parking brake -- lever operated -- to hold a car on a hill to avoid roll back when driving on a hill, smooth take off required timing which was improved by practice.

But I soon just developed a technique of getting the car moving by in quick succession releasing the brakes and applying some throttle and concurrently easing the clutch into engagement. This eliminated the use of the parking brake.

Then at some point one then both of my vehicles were fitted with automatic transmissions and even came with hill hold and that was that.

Well, not quite..

I have bounced from vehicles equipped with automatics and those equipped with manual transmissions. Often and is now the case, one car (230xi) is an automatic and the other (M2) is a manual.

The M2 (and the 230xi too) has what is called "Drive-Off Assistant". From my M2's owners manual:

Drive-off assistant

Principle

The drive-off assistant supports driving off on uphill grades.

Driving off

1. Hold the vehicle by depressing the brake pedal.

2. Release the brake pedal and drive off quickly. After the brake pedal is released, the vehicle is held in place for approx. 2 seconds.

Depending on the vehicle loading, the vehicle may roll back slightly.

In order to prevent rolling back when driving off, use the parking brake.

1. Pull and release switch before driving off. The parking brake is set.
2. Step on the accelerator pedal sufficiently to drive off.

My experience with my M2 (with the 6-speed manual) is given my usage of the vehicle the drive off assistant makes the use of the parking brake unnecessary.

[KindaSortaTerrible]

Thanks too all who provided advice. Unfortunately the clutch definitely feels different today- slightly quivers as I release it starting from a sttop, and the bite point is more vague than before. Totally drivable and frankly a bit more pleasant, but yeah, I think the clutch needs to be looked at.

Drove a type r and nothing like this ever happened, just my luck

[Legit]

Here is a slightly on topic question. I was under the impression this car can't stall? I have literally tried on purpose to stall this car and it gets ugly, jerky and lurches forward awkwardly but the engine does not turn off and the car just settles itself and continues. The engine has never shut off on me.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Legit

Here is a slightly on topic question. I was under the impression this car can't stall?

What gave you that impression?

Originally Posted by Legit

I have literally tried on purpose to stall this car and it gets ugly, jerky and lurches forward awkwardly but the engine does not turn off and the car just settles itself and continues. The engine has never shut off on me.

Why were you trying to stall it?

[Tag]

Originally Posted by KindaSortaTerrible

Thanks too all who provided advice. Unfortunately the clutch definitely feels different today- slightly quivers as I release it starting from a sttop, and the bite point is more vague than before. Totally drivable and frankly a bit more pleasant, but yeah, I think the clutch needs to be looked at.

Drove a type r and nothing like this ever happened, just my luck

The car is not that fragile. Perhaps you're just overthinking this.

[Legit]

Originally Posted by Tag

What gave you that impression?



Why were you trying to stall it?

To test the stall characteristics. I realized this car does not shut off, at least on me. Maybe some anti stall software I have no idea. Literally no gas let go of clutch it lurches forward but does not shut off and I can just go on my way.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Legit

To test the stall characteristics. I realized this car does not shut off, at least on me. Maybe some anti stall software I have no idea. Literally no gas let go of clutch it lurches forward but does not shut off and I can just go on my way.

It stalls as any car.

It does restart automatically when you clutch in.

OP, you don’t have to pull the e-brake, as the car holds itself for enough time to get going. If you do engage it, just drive off as normal.

You stalled your car a couple of times. Big deal… nothing happened, unless you dumped it and did burnouts every time, which I don’t think you did.

[JMcLellan]

I agree that it is hard to stall this car- still haven't done it when driving. However, I did stall it when I was parked when I forgot the car was in gear and still running. Let off the clutch and the car turned off.

The true test will be this afternoon as my wife will be taking the car for a drive. It's been 15+ years since she has driven a stick....if she doesn't stall it then maybe there is something to the theory the car can't be stalled

[Habber]

All those years learning to perfect the first gear engagement stopping on a hill….

What a waste now.

[ScottyRyan2019]

Originally Posted by JMcLellan

I agree that it is hard to stall this car- still haven't done it when driving. However, I did stall it when I was parked when I forgot the car was in gear and still running. Let off the clutch and the car turned off.

The true test will be this afternoon as my wife will be taking the car for a drive. It's been 15+ years since she has driven a stick....if she doesn't stall it then maybe there is something to the theory the car can't be stalled

Let me know her route so I can stay the phuck on the other side of town!! 🤪

[JMcLellan]

Originally Posted by ScottyRyan2019

Let me know her route so I can stay the phuck on the other side of town!! 🤪

I am riding passenger and hoping she navigates to pound town. Lol. I hope she never reads this......