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      03-15-2018, 07:28 PM   #1
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Boost Deviation

Guys, have a boost issue. When accelerating from a stop my boost never gets higher than 30 psi. If I am pulling hard from 60 to 100 or so (torque pull rather than high RPM) I see a flutter in the gauge at 30 psi, increases to about 35- 36 and then dumps boost to 30. Seems like some bad behavior with pressure converters to me. I am using a quality Autometer boost gauge. Some info on my 335d:

Mileage is 74k, tuned with Jarek's 2.5 and deleted since about 54k. Ported wastegate due to some feedback early on when we started tuning and deleting a few years ago fearing turbo ovespeed. (not necessary). No issues with running, starting, driveability, no codes shadow or otherwise except for occasional overboost code and partial shutdown when in 6th and pulling hard uphill (100-120). The reduced power warning would go away in a couple seconds and return to normal rather than having to restart. Only happened 3 only this year.

Now have JR stage 2.8 and Xhp tranny tune Stage 3. That issue has not returned. Just the boost deviation. Don't believe I have any boost leaks. I check when I do an LOF. Recently upgraded intercooler and installed new seals. No change. Drive pressure peaks at 44psi which seems high.(Using DWR's Torque parameters.) Have been up to 160 on GPS no problem racing a Shelby Cobra when we backed off.

Thoughts? (Hopefully I am not duplicating issues already shared and solved)
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      03-17-2018, 11:21 AM   #2
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So the reduced power does not pop a code?
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Sorry Yozh, that would help. 4521 Charge Pressure Control Error. Meant to say only happened 3 times last year never to return. Not sure why it peaks and drops so fast. What is up with the flutter? I know you've done some extensive logging.
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So no more code? But you still get limp and flutter? If I recall (not at the computer right now) 4521 is an overboost code. Would your flutter happen to come on at after 3000 rpm? How healthy is the vacuum system? Do you have a way to log your parameters? You e mentioned boost deviation. Are you logging actual vs requested vs exhaust pressure?
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No more codes since issue last year. Limp was only a few seconds before returning to normal, which was odd to me. Usually would require a restart in limp mode.
Boost flutters a second at most 30 psi, increases to 36 or so right away, before immediately dropping back to 30 psi.
Correct, 4521 Boost Pressure Actuator - Regulation Pressure too High. Will check RPM, seems to occur only on 6th gear pull, pedal depressed to kickdown switch in 6M.
Vacuum system seems ok, but have not replaced all of the hoses, only some. I meant deviation as "not the norm", rather than a pressure delta. I'll get some logging compiled.
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Do you know which parameters to log? I also as a precaution would test your vacuum actuators pressure converters and switchover valves in driving. Fairly easy to do.
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Requested Boost and Actual(Boost Delta)? it cuts boost 30 psi. Should be 36-37 on the 2.8 tune without dropping to thirty
I Use Rheingolld and will piggyback on to Testo, Also have Cbarly sovewhat worthless) foxwell, and BT too, when Idon't fell like lugging ny latop around,
I recheck the vacuum the vacuum actuators and switch overs.

thanks for your help
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Log:
Boost actual
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Turbo switchover duty ratio
Compressor bypass status
Rpm.
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Did u ever find the source of your problems?
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Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to log. A lot going on at work and not my DD.
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Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to log. A lot going on at work and not my DD.
fsd350 I am getting the same code/similar issue. Did you ever get this figured out?
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fsd350 I am getting the same code/similar issue. Did you ever get this figured out?
Google the code, you'll find answers to your problems.
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fsd350 I am getting the same code/similar issue. Did you ever get this figured out?
Apologies CO335D, I still have not unfortunately. Too many cars, too little time. Now I am finishing an LS build and restoration for an older family friend's 1980 Corvette. He has stage 4 blood cancer and the clock is ticking😔
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fsd350 I am getting the same code/similar issue. Did you ever get this figured out?
Its almost certainly the pressure converter. Disconnect the vac line to the waste gate( should have a splice at or near the AC compressor ) take a short drive.
report back.
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Its almost certainly the pressure converter. Disconnect the vac line to the waste gate( should have a splice at or near the AC compressor ) take a short drive.
report back.
Guess what folks? I'm a douchebag. One of the plugs on a vacuum tee disintegrated over the years. Problem solved. Always start with the easiest first. Replaced all my hoses with silicone years ago when I did the converters etc., but had that rubber plug on a tee forever.

Here's another story about starting with the basics:
My 77-year-old neighbor has an e60 530i. He drives the s**t out of it so it runs great. It quit running even though it showed having fuel. I told him to never run under a quarter tank. Had it towed to my shop, his fuel was low, reserve light was not on. Ista indicated first step is to check fuel. Dumped 2 gallons in and drove it back to his property around the corner within 10 minutes.

Replaced both sensors and the ekps a couple years later. Pump and sucker were good.

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