[Firebass]

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What’re US dealers offering? Are most at MSRP or are there crazy markups ala Civic Type R? Granted it’s a new, desirable car, but curious if it’s subject to the same price mania of the past few years. FWIW, my dealer offered 5% off MSRP out the door.

[fanofbmwe46]

Wait lists are 5-20 people deep.

Most dealers are still at MSRP but at this point saying it will be over a year for most people new to the list to actually get an allocation.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Firebass

What’re US dealers offering? Are most at MSRP or are there crazy markups ala Civic Type R? Granted it’s a new, desirable car, but curious if it’s subject to the same price mania of the past few years. FWIW, my dealer offered 5% off MSRP out the door.

That’s a great deal. Take it and run!

[uk01685]

Needless to say, it's all over the place. On the positive, one dealer I have an order with will do nothing but MSRP no matter what, and that even includes the HEA car, if they get one and if you wait 90 days or so. On the other side, 5,000 and up ADMs and also up to 5,000 deposits. The market is/has changed since mid 2022 but unfortunately not all the dealers have gotten the memo yet.

[Firebass]

Originally Posted by Tag

That’s a great deal. Take it and run!

Haha I wish it were so easy. I’m moving back to the US and my dealer informed me of a June delivery, which is too late. Plus I’ll then be on my own for a friend to ship it back vs work (~$3k) wondering what the cost will be to order fresh back in the states

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Tag

That’s a great deal. Take it and run!

Agreed. It is currently unheard of in the United States and even for repeat clientele.


Edit, Our BMW stores are no longer adding a ADM to non-M vehicles as inventory has finally improved. For the foreseeable future we are still adding a $5k ADM to all M vehicles.

[DarkNight707]

Here in souther California I have heard of ADMs going from 5-20k with a place in San Fran estimating 30-40k. So, as others said, run with it!

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Firebass

Haha I wish it were so easy. I’m moving back to the US and my dealer informed me of a June delivery, which is too late. Plus I’ll then be on my own for a friend to ship it back vs work (~$3k) wondering what the cost will be to order fresh back in the states

You should reconsider moving back so soon.

[JqotsaL]

I’m #2 in line at MSRP, no ADM, at my dealer. Southern NH.

[Firebass]

Originally Posted by Tag

You should reconsider moving back so soon.

Were it only so easy…

Thanks for the info on US prices. Given the ADMs and long wait lists, I’ll see if my dealer can get the car rerouted to the US when ready

[johnnie311]

Originally Posted by Firebass

What’re US dealers offering? Are most at MSRP or are there crazy markups ala Civic Type R? Granted it’s a new, desirable car, but curious if it’s subject to the same price mania of the past few years. FWIW, my dealer offered 5% off MSRP out the door.

I placed my order at the beginning of January after calling around to a bunch of dealers in Massachusetts and Connecticut. The responses varied wildly from dealership to dealership.

1. MSRP; $250 order deposit; $1500 additional upon allocation; 5 people on order list; expected delivery end of 2023 or start of 2024
2. MSRP; $1000 order deposit; unknown delivery date; 2 people on order list
3. $5000 mark-up; end of 2023 delivery; 15 people on list
4. $10,000 mark-up; would not disclose length of order list
5. $5000 mark-up for out-of-state customers; $2500 deposit; late summer delivery date
6. MSRP; $5000 order deposit; 3 people on order list; unknown delivery date

I went with the last option because I had a really great experience interacting with that dealership compared to some of the others.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by johnnie311

I placed my order at the beginning of January after calling around to a bunch of dealers in Massachusetts and Connecticut. The responses varied wildly from dealership to dealership.

1. MSRP; $250 order deposit; $1500 additional upon allocation; 5 people on order list; expected delivery end of 2023 or start of 2024
2. MSRP; $1000 order deposit; unknown delivery date; 2 people on order list
3. $5000 mark-up; end of 2023 delivery; 15 people on list
4. $10,000 mark-up; would not disclose length of order list
5. $5000 mark-up for out-of-state customers; $2500 deposit; late summer delivery date
6. MSRP; $5000 order deposit; 3 people on order list; unknown delivery date

I went with the last option because I had a really great experience interacting with that dealership compared to some of the others.

Out of the above options, I probably would have selected number two.

Note, that is solely based upon the 1-6 options presented.

[johnnie311]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Out of the above options, I probably would have selected number two. Note, that is only based upon the 1-6 options.

I was originally intending to go with number two, but I got a very bad feeling when interacting with the CA. He was aggressive, disorganized, and said some inappropriate/unprofessional things to me. I decided to run!

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by johnnie311

I was originally intending to go with number two, but I got a very bad feeling when interacting with the CA. He was aggressive, disorganized, and said some inappropriate/unprofessional things to me. I decided to run!

Something to always consider, what the service experience will be like if you were to purchase from one of the various local BMW Centers. Your interaction with the front of the house, sales department is limited versus the multiple years spent in the back of the house, the service department. Food for thought.

[sl0m0]

My center I go to for a lot of my service wanted 5k over MSRP, wouldn't budge. I called 5 other local spots and got 3rd on a list @ msrp with 2500 order deposit. Went into my primary bmw center 2 months later and had another guy in sales talk to me in the parking lot while I was looking around while waiting for service to be completed and he then offered at MSRP. I wish they did that in the first place as it's my favorite center.

[Rx-7ames]

My dealership has 3 orders taken at $10k over MSRP. We will see what actually happens when allocations start coming in. I am at a smaller store so who knows when we will even get an allocation. My guess is that the first batch of cars will likely go for 5-10k over MSRP at most dealerships and then level out at MSRP after the first year. 5% discount? That's invoice pricing. I can't see why any dealership would offer that. It doesn't make sense.

[d3sign3r]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

My dealership has 3 orders taken at $10k over MSRP. We will see what actually happens when allocations start coming in. I am at a smaller store so who knows when we will even get an allocation. My guess is that the first batch of cars will likely go for 5-10k over MSRP at most dealerships and then level out at MSRP after the first year. 5% discount? That's invoice pricing. I can't see why any dealership would offer that. It doesn't make sense.

90% of dealers in my area asked $10-$25k over msrp. I went with the only dealer that doesn't markup but at the cost of a few g's deposit.

[curtdragon]

I feel like if they want a large deposit they should open a high yield savings account and give split the profit at the end of the day because they are doing just that except not giving you the cash

[zero21]

Originally Posted by curtdragon

I feel like if they want a large deposit they should open a high yield savings account and give split the profit at the end of the day because they are doing just that except not giving you the cash

Interest on my 5k deposit amounts to what? A tank of gas? I'd rather have that than ADM any day.

[VT Skier]

I'm in at MSRP; $1,000 refundable deposit; unknown delivery date; #7 on order list

[Use20]

Originally Posted by Firebass

What’re US dealers offering? Are most at MSRP or are there crazy markups ala Civic Type R? Granted it’s a new, desirable car, but curious if it’s subject to the same price mania of the past few years. FWIW, my dealer offered 5% off MSRP out the door.

G8X are all 5-9% off msrp now

5% sounds great!

[LVI]

Originally Posted by Use20

G8X are all 5-9% off msrp now

5% sounds great!

where are these G8X cars for under MSRP?