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      11-19-2023, 06:43 PM   #67
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Everything Chris Harris touches turns to gold. I just love the guy. It makes me really want a G87 now.

Unfortunately, I paid cash for my 2021 F87C, and the fact that it only has 16,400 miles on it, makes me not in the market for a new car for quite some time.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my F87. Love it to pieces...

That being said, I'd love a more comfortable ride. It's probably why, for the most part, the M2C is reserved for my commute to work and back. A whopping round trip of about 6 miles. Add in 4 more when I go get lunch, and that's 10 miles of driving a day. I drive the wife's CX-5 on the weekends as it is much more comfortable.

Realistically, it's going to be some time before I get a new car.

Enjoy your G87s, gents! I'm a bit jealous!
Better to wait anyway, I'm doing the same.

Known future G87 models...
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      11-19-2023, 06:46 PM   #68
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Better to wait anyway, I'm doing the same.

Known future G87 models...
You got a point there, bud!
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What get this if it’s similar power and weighs more than the f82?
Because it doesn’t have the twin coffin kidney grills…
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This video is awesome and Chris Harris as always delivers.

He literally started and finished by addressing every point that I thought was an immense fail on the F87 and why i sold my car... namely the new G87 appears FAR more composed, less bouncy and snappy... in other words a far better car in all conditions.

I think Bmw has a winner here.
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Nice review as always. The UK journos are pretty much always spot on.
Its those from the US that have zero idea & talk absolute shite.
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This video is awesome and Chris Harris as always delivers.

He literally started and finished by addressing every point that I thought was an immense fail on the F87 and why i sold my car... namely the new G87 appears FAR more composed, less bouncy and snappy... in other words a far better car in all conditions.

I think Bmw has a winner here.
His point about the M3 as predecessor made me think about the dimensions of the e92 - very similar, and actually the G87 is a few inches wider in track width and car width.

And the playfulness of the f87 was apparently part of its charm. If you want that playfulness, the Z4M40 can play the part - just no manual transmission, yet…and it comes with adaptive dampers.
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I liked the G80 - and was amused because he did not .
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Some of you guys are absolutely unhinged. Need to log off and go get some fresh air.
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I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I almost bought an M2 and decided to go with the M4. My take - he’s glossing over weight and design; value retention f87 argument is unfair, as those values have come down to earth with the exception of the limited production cs; he needs to go back and drive an e46 because the steering feel is there. The key question for buyers: do you want a car that objectively performs better, or one that is more subjectively fun/ appealing? Each person has to decide… one thing is for sure, as he pointed out, BMW plays mental gymnastics on us and has for decades.


This car is really really good, and it’s super hard to ignore the logical progression.

It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely a better road car.
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Some of you guys are absolutely unhinged. Need to log off and go get some fresh air.
It’s the internet Susan. It gets lively.
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      11-19-2023, 09:04 PM   #78
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Here you can see the difference between a real car journalist ( who understood engineering) and you tube influencers!
Not everyone who understands the m2s engineering and dynamics digs the m2. The most damning video review comment I’ve seen is geese saying when he had the car for a few days he had zero interest in taking it out for a spin.
FTR, I’m in the i dig the g87 the most crowd
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Everything Chris Harris touches turns to gold. I just love the guy. It makes me really want a G87 now.

Unfortunately, I paid cash for my 2021 F87C, and the fact that it only has 16,400 miles on it, makes me not in the market for a new car for quite some time.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my F87. Love it to pieces...

That being said, I'd love a more comfortable ride. It's probably why, for the most part, the M2C is reserved for my commute to work and back. A whopping round trip of about 6 miles. Add in 4 more when I go get lunch, and that's 10 miles of driving a day. I drive the wife's CX-5 on the weekends as it is much more comfortable.

Realistically, it's going to be some time before I get a new car.

Enjoy your G87s, gents! I'm a bit jealous!
Bro how much do you hate that cx5? I HATE my wife’s 2014 HATE
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Has Chris sold his green M2 CS and put an order for this?
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Not everyone who understands the m2s engineering and dynamics digs the m2. The most damning video review comment I’ve seen is geese saying when he had the car for a few days he had zero interest in taking it out for a spin.
FTR, I’m in the i dig the g87 the most crowd
Comparing a guy who is sponsored by lexus and who plugged cars like the Lexus LC500 as well as Kia SUVs to someone who's hosted numerous motoring shows, owned exotic cars, a ton of m cars and is an amateur race car driver is absolutely wild lol.
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He did mutilate his own M2CS with rock hard suspension though. Hence the comment on beating him up when he drove it. Stock suspension on the CS fixed the occasional problem on the C where you could get bounced off line and is quite a bit more comfortable too.

G8x is designed to be a much better daily driver than F models and it truly is. It does lose something on the fun aspect but way less people care about this nowadays.

However, I don’t have a commute so I just get to enjoy the feels without the downsides. If I did have a commute and only one car it might be a very different story. That’s where the G87 excels.
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He did mutilate his own M2CS with rock hard suspension though. Hence the comment on beating him up when he drove it. Stock suspension on the CS fixed the occasional problem on the C where you could get bounced off line and is quite a bit more comfortable too.
A F87cs was significantly more expensive then a G87 when I ordered my car, and there was no hope of finding one local to me. Otherwise with the adaptive suspension I definitely would have considered. But if I have to spend 100k for a used CS vs 70k for a brand new car with warranty? For me (who also likes the design) it was a no brainier.
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I love the shot he took at people talking smack about the g87 haha
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Has Chris sold his green M2 CS and put an order for this?
He sold it September of last year… It was replaced by an M3 Touring ❕
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Has Chris sold his green M2 CS and put an order for this?
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He sold it September of last year… It was replaced by an M3 Touring ❕
He also posted a IG story about a month ago where he said he liked the G87 so much he wanted to buy it from BMW but they would only sell it to him at full MSRP even though it was a used press car so he passed. Don’t be surprised if he gets it or M2 CS next year.
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. TH and other YTbers makes entertainment to make sure you like their videos.
Problem is they are not that good and offer very little in terms of useful or accurate information in many cases. Do not watch they dont get paid. They offer nothing you cant sort for yourself. They test yet dont own what others will buy. That limited view is joke in most all cases.
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Chris says It is more a daily M car.

I think the F87 is more playable and nimble. As a daily car i think the new one is better. But as a trackday car you could better choose something lighter.
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