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      09-25-2022, 08:34 PM   #793
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Why deleted those pictures?

Are we in China or North Korea?
because Milton can't find his red Swingline stapler and decided to delete posts … next are bans for anybody that doesn't like this beautiful white swan just like big nose beautiful rhino
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I just wanna talk the design team. I swear I just wanna talk. I won’t even swear. I just want to know how much Hyundai is paying them to purposely make these things look like this.
His name and IG have been shared before. Wonder if he's reading this.
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Or maybe a pair of that same exact rose-tinted glasses the folks that are supportive of this design is apparently wearing.. 😆
As compared to this black car.

100% stock. OG. No need to drop it…replace grills…look at it sideways, and with both eyes mostly closed….
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      09-25-2022, 08:45 PM   #796
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Are we in China or North Korea?
I'm sure Bimmerpost (...) probably removed it
Active Bimmerpost forum members can edit their own posts, including removal of text and pictures, by using the 'EDIT' button.

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Or maybe a pair of that same exact rose-tinted glasses the folks that are supportive of this design is apparently wearing.. 😆
As compared to this black car.

100% stock. OG. No need to drop it…replace grills…look at it sideways, and with both eyes mostly closed….
Would love to see a G87 in the same spot. I think it'd look great.
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      09-25-2022, 09:12 PM   #798
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Would love to see a G87 in the same spot. I think it'd look great.
We were thinking about it, even with the pedestrian ZF8 and no DCT - the M2 is my lady’s car, but she said no way to the new one….

I also read today that the new one will weigh 1700 kg. Is that confirmed? My god that’s heavy.
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      09-25-2022, 09:17 PM   #799
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Why deleted those pictures?
Are we in China or North Korea?
I'm sure Bimmerpost (...) probably removed it
Active Bimmerpost forum members can edit their own posts, including removal of text and pictures, by using the 'EDIT' button.

And that's what has happened in this thread.
Oh I see, that's interesting… Those photos are all over the internet, so at this thus juncture, I don't see the point of removing it from the OP.. But I guess it's one of those mysteries.. 🤔
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We were thinking about it, even with the pedestrian ZF8 and no DCT - the M2 is my lady’s car, but she said no way to the new one….

I also read today that the new one will weigh 1700 kg. Is that confirmed? My god that’s heavy.
It'll weigh somewhere in that range, yes. BMW said it's between the weight of the outgoing M2c and the new M4. G82 and G87 are both on the CLAR platform, guess which one it'll weigh closer to.
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Watching him explain his thoughts of his design on the M240i it will be interesting to see the follow up video when he explains his design elements for the M2. But looking at other videos explaining his other designs like the M Vision, or INext I kinda understand his design philosophy and can see how he implemented it in the 2 series (see the gloss black rocker on the M Vision that he likes to use on the M240i?). Just not sure if I agree with it for BMW cars.






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So, I'm not a huge fan of the design. And yet, I'm still going to buy one.

To channel my inner Clarkson, 'I don't care if the back end is a bit rough. I don't buy a car so I can sit all day, staring dreamily at it's derrière.

I buy a car so I can zoom past people, and make THEM stare at my car's backside. And this car let me do that quite comfortably.'
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My wife's first reaction on seeing the pictures. She's not an obsessive car person though loves good design and is generally considered to be someone with good taste (of course )

On seeing the front:
Pause. Mmmmmm they've lost something in the front.

On seeing the rear:
[Grimace]. Oh no!

On reflection:
But why did they have to ruin something so perfect?
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My wife's first reaction on seeing the pictures. She's not a car person though loves good design and is generally considered to be someone with good taste (of course )

On seeing the front:
Pause. Mmmmmm they've lost something in the front.

On seeing the rear:
[Grimace]. Oh no!

On reflection:
But why did they have to ruin something so perfect?
For the same reason dogs lick their you know whats - (sadly) because they can

BTW, I hear some of you guys were a bit of a handful at Eastern Creek a few days ago; I'm certain you weren't one of the mischievous ones, but did you see the near-miss?
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It looks much better in color and with some decent wheels;

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My wife's first reaction on seeing the pictures. She's not a car person though loves good design and is generally considered to be someone with good taste (of course )

On seeing the front:
Pause. Mmmmmm they've lost something in the front.

On seeing the rear:
[Grimace]. Oh no!

On reflection:
But why did they have to ruin something so perfect?
For the same reason dogs lick their you know whats - (sadly) because they can

BTW, I hear some of you guys were a bit of a handful at Eastern Creek a few days ago; I'm certain you weren't one of the mischievous ones, but did you see the near-miss?
It could have been me . A M2C at 170kmh in bucketing rain - I mean what could go wrong
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For the same reason dogs lick their you know whats - (sadly) because they can

BTW, I hear some of you guys were a bit of a handful at Eastern Creek a few days ago; I'm certain you weren't one of the mischievous ones, but did you see the near-miss?
It could have been me . A M2C at 170kmh in bucketing rain - I mean what could go wrong
That made me laugh, I'm sure it wasn't you

Jokes aside, what a legend is Gavin?

Amazing driving skills

He told me he was a test driver for Porsche but has nothing but praise for the G82 M4 (and can't wait till he gets his hands on a CSL)

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      09-26-2022, 07:21 AM   #808
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Not sure how many people seen these before, but these are pretty accurate renders - and have exactly the same features as leaked pics. You have to admit these look awesome - I think the angles on the leaked pics probably don't do it justice.

And the flat paint and bad lighting didn't help either

Minus the side vents
That wide opening behind the front tire doesn't seem to be in the leaked photos. The leaked photos also seem to have the rear more dramatically inset towards the middle section of the bumper. Agree that this render does make the car look better than the leaked photos.
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The rear section comments crack me up. The 2 series bumper has never had that "completed" look with an aggressive stance or length. The f87 rear looks like you just kicked your dog in the rear to get it out of your way and it hunches up and tries to run away.
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I'm not familiar the website. While harsh, I feel it's accurate.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...s-199490.html#
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Probably the first road-going car designed in Minecraft, this fellow is borderline questionable up front. In addition to a plethora of angles that simply don’t work together with the headlights, the front end is too busy for this application, a vehicle that is expected to celebrate driving enjoyment.

The rocker panel’s design is fine as long as you ignore that weird line between the door and the rear wheel. The rear definitely is the most atrocious part of the Mexico-built sports coupe. BMW has – quite possibly – used a baboon’s butt as inspiration for that bumper. The gloss-black diffuser with angular cutouts for the quad-piped exhaust is ghastly at best, and the reflectors on the swollen bits of the bumper are downright hideous. Car lovers with mild cases of OCD, you might want to refrain from looking at the rearview camera.

Pale-ish blue paint on the body with red brake calipers is a rather poor combo. We can also notice carbon-fiber seats with integrated headrests, which look quite similar to the M3 and M4. Published on Bimmerport.com, the photos that should’ve never left BMW’s facility reveals a set of Michelin rubber boots wrapped around black wheels featuring a dual-spoke motif.
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I'm not familiar the website. While harsh, I feel it's accurate.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...s-199490.html#
From the same article, the last sentence, “ On that note, here’s hope the all-new M2 drives much better than it looks.”

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To me what's odd about the new M2, aside from the obvious rear end and brutalists design approach, is how it bares little resemblance to the new 240i. Being in the same family, I'd expect both to have a common DNA. The front and back design are completely different; no design continuity. The new 240i, while a bit bold in appearance, could have been a great starting point for this car. Instead BMW went in a completely different design direction; the two vehicles now look like they belong in separate series IMO. In agreement with most here about the boot and rear bumper design, the front is plain and uninspiring but not too offensive. However, these darn ugly design features have a way of settling in our heads over time and becoming "cool" and "unique" and "aggressive". Never say never.

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To me what's odd about the new M2, aside from the obvious rear end and brutalists design approach, is how it bares little resemblance to the new 240i. Being in the same family, I'd expect both to have a common DNA. The front and back design are completely different; no design continuity. The new 240i, while a bit bold in appearance, could have been a great starting point for this car. Instead BMW went in a completely different design direction; the two vehicles now look like they belong in separate series IMO. In agreement with most here about the boot and rear bumper design, the front is plain and uninspiring but not too offensive. However, these darn ugly design features have a way of settling in our heads over time and becoming "cool" and "unique" and "aggressive". Never say never.

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That's exactly what BMW is looking for and customers have asked for. We already heard these statements from various BMW interviews when the G8x was launched.

Customers complained that M cars look to similar to their non-M variants, and that they want more differentiation.
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I really hope the G87 LCI picks up more of the design of Jose's original sketches
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