[carjoy]

Originally Posted by Dr.Deep

That's exactly what BMW is looking for and customers have asked for. We already heard these statements from various BMW interviews when the G8x was launched.

Customers complained that M cars look to similar to their non-M variants, and that they want more differentiation.

Understood, but I think if you go too far in differentiating cars within the same series, it's not great either. Of course, if you are putting down $65-75k for a sports car, you want the top model to perform and look more unique than it's little brothers. Finding a delicate balance between making the M2 unique and not so much it can be confused for a car from another series; that's the bigger challenge.

[carjoy]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I really hope the G87 LCI picks up more of the design of Jose's original sketches

In these sketches, you can clearly see the new 240i's bolder design cues, developed further both at the front and rear of vehicle. Too bad Jose Casas and team didn't or couldn't go in this direction. The leaked car photos look nothing like these concept schematics.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by carjoy

In these sketches, you can clearly see the new 240i's bolder design cues, developed further both at the front and rear of vehicle. Too bad Jose Casas and team didn't or couldn't go in this direction. The leaked car photos look nothing like these concept schematics.

Agreed

These L shaped taillights will hopefully be an LCI change

[Tag]

Although they do tend to update the lights on LCI models, I've never seen them update the form factor. It requires too much design, engineering and retooling to change the quarter panels and trunk lid to accommodate. I expect an aesthetic design change to the internals of the light housing, but nothing else.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Tag

Although they do tend to update the lights on LCI models, I've never seen them update the form factor. It requires too much design, engineering and retooling to change the quarter panels and trunk lid to accommodate. I expect an aesthetic design change to the internals of the light housing, but nothing else.

Agreed

Maybe generation 3

Although every gen seems to get larger

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Tag

Although they do tend to update the lights on LCI models, I've never seen them update the form factor. It requires too much design, engineering and retooling to change the quarter panels and trunk lid to accommodate. I expect an aesthetic design change to the internals of the light housing, but nothing else.

It has happened on several models in past with both headlights and taillights.

Most recent was the E90, inner portion of tail lights required a new trunk.

I remember pre-LCI M3 owners buying new trunks to upgrade to LCI tail lights.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M3WC

It has happened on several models in past with both headlights and taillights.

Most recent was the E90, inner portion of tail lights required a new trunk.

I remember pre-LCI M3 owners buying new trunks to upgrade to LCI tail lights.

Can you link an example? I've never seen that be the case.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Tag

Can you link an example? I've never seen that be the case.

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[Tag]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

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There's hope after all.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Tag

Can you link an example? I've never seen that be the case.

You can look up in M3post, all the old threads about sourcing trunks to upgrade to lci tail lights for E90.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Tag

There's hope after all.

To give more hope(although not tail lights).

The more recent LCI change to G20 headlight shape.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by M3WC

To give more hope(although not tail lights).

The more recent LCI change to G20 headlight shape.

Really hope they give it the dual headlight projectors for the LCI, but highly doubt it.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

From the same article, the last sentence, " On that note, here's hope the all-new M2 drives much better than it looks."

I couldn't get past "The rear definitely is the most atrocious part of the Mexico-built sports coupe. BMW has – quite possibly – used a baboon's butt as inspiration for that bumper. The gloss-black diffuser with angular cutouts for the quad-piped exhaust is ghastly at best, and the reflectors on the swollen bits of the bumper are downright hideous."

I feel sorry for the Mexican manufacturing team. They, after all, build to spec whatever Munich designs for them.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by gnx

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Why did you delete the photos ⁉️

You're on the front page and then you delete them…. Good Lord ‼️

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by M3WC

To give more hope(although not tail lights).

The more recent LCI change to G20 headlight shape.


[IMG]https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...8;d=1616408425[/IMG]
[IMG]https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/0f...#38;width=1200[/IMG]

I think they actually looked fine before

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by Dr.Deep

That's exactly what BMW is looking for and customers have asked for. We already heard these statements from various BMW interviews when the G8x was launched.

Customers complained that M cars look to similar to their non-M variants, and that they want more differentiation.

Yet BMW is adding M badges in the grilles and M mirrors to M perf. models.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by WWM3

Yet BMW is adding M badges in the grilles and M mirrors to M perf. models.

That does seem counterintuitive.

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by WWM3

Yet BMW is adding M badges in the grilles and M mirrors to M perf. models.

Yes, they can now, as the cars look different

Joking…I get you. But it's the same with all manufacturers and their sport lines…AMG is not different. Those badges are desirable, so probably they think that way they attract even more to spend a bit more for an „M line" version.

[donm527]

Originally Posted by WWM3

Yet BMW is adding M badges in the grilles and M mirrors to M perf. models.

Similar to Porsche 718, 718 GTS and 718 GT4.

The M240i is the GTS of the 2-Series and the M2 is the GT4.

The M2CS will be the GT4 RS I guess.

I like they are doing that.

[anitasanger]

I agree that the car is more or less the finished product, alas, I can't help but believe that the rear diffuser is either misleading us, or missing a finishing piece. When looking at the m3 and the 240i, BMW diffusers typically have an aesthetic cohesion with the bumper. Sometimes they flow up over a bit, or melt together as if they're one piece. On the new m2, it's as if the bumper is a sharp lip, which hangs over the diffuser. As if you could hook your fingers under the bumper and pull it out from the car. It looks beyond unfinished, and the camo car has a plate covering this section, which lends credence to there being a missing piece we haven't yet seen. Or so I hope.

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[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Tag

Although they do tend to update the lights on LCI models, I've never seen them update the form factor. It requires too much design, engineering and retooling to change the quarter panels and trunk lid to accommodate. I expect an aesthetic design change to the internals of the light housing, but nothing else.

A model that instantly came to mind for me was the pre E36/7 Z3 LCI versus the Z3 LCI. The entire rear end was updated for the LCI. Rear quarter panels, trunk lid, bumper cover, and tail lights.

Edit, I forgot about the rear LCI on the E90 as mentioned above.

These days though it is not a 100% guarantee that the rear end of the vehicle will see any updating via an LCI. The G07 X7 just received a minor update to the rear end unlike the front that was significantly updated.

[ElHeffe]

Originally Posted by Tag

Really hope they give it the dual headlight projectors for the LCI, but highly doubt it.

In the vid that someone provided, both the front and rear light shapes were chosen to make the car look as wide as possible. He specifically called out using single projectors to do it. I'm doubtful it will change for that reason. Here's the vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM0FCUBtcuM